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Trump Turns G-7 into a Reality Show
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RE: Trump Turns G-7 into a Reality Show
(June 12, 2018 at 12:52 pm)henryp Wrote:
(June 12, 2018 at 12:47 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: The US has made concessions and gained nothing. 

There is no way to look at this other than a massive win for North Korea at the expense of the US world standing.

If Russia aren't paying Trump to do this then he is just an idiot.

What about the decreased risk of a nuclear war with North Korea?  That's a little something, no?

I'm not sure how you assess the level of risk of a nuclear war breaking out with North Korea. They still have nukes; we still have nukes. Some of the things one might hope to have achieved by making this concession (e.g., better information about their arsenal and capabilities; a timetable for inspectors to examine their development and testing sites) apparently weren't even on the table. And leaving aside nukes, they still have a metric fuck-ton of conventional arms aimed directly at Seoul, who apparently weren't all aware that we were going to end our joint exercises. North Korea conceded absolutely nothing, which is less than a little something, no?

I hope Trump's meeting with Kim is the first step in a process that brings true and lasting peace. But I don't think this meeting displayed our president's alleged negotiating prowess. We'll just have to see what can be achieved when serious negotiations between the experts take shape.
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Trump Turns G-7 into a Reality Show - by Jehanne - June 10, 2018 at 8:30 am
RE: Trump Turns G-7 into a Reality Show - by Jehanne - June 10, 2018 at 10:55 am
RE: Trump Turns G-7 into a Reality Show - by Anomalocaris - June 10, 2018 at 11:26 am
RE: Trump Turns G-7 into a Reality Show - by Minimalist - June 10, 2018 at 11:28 am
RE: Trump Turns G-7 into a Reality Show - by Amarok - June 10, 2018 at 12:35 pm
RE: Trump Turns G-7 into a Reality Show - by Amarok - June 10, 2018 at 1:23 pm
RE: Trump Turns G-7 into a Reality Show - by Minimalist - June 10, 2018 at 2:01 pm
RE: Trump Turns G-7 into a Reality Show - by brewer - June 10, 2018 at 2:12 pm
RE: Trump Turns G-7 into a Reality Show - by Amarok - June 10, 2018 at 2:21 pm
RE: Trump Turns G-7 into a Reality Show - by Jehanne - June 10, 2018 at 5:18 pm
RE: Trump Turns G-7 into a Reality Show - by Minimalist - June 10, 2018 at 8:05 pm
RE: Trump Turns G-7 into a Reality Show - by Jehanne - June 10, 2018 at 9:53 pm
RE: Trump Turns G-7 into a Reality Show - by SteelCurtain - June 10, 2018 at 10:19 pm
RE: Trump Turns G-7 into a Reality Show - by Jehanne - June 10, 2018 at 10:29 pm
RE: Trump Turns G-7 into a Reality Show - by henryp - June 10, 2018 at 10:48 pm
RE: Trump Turns G-7 into a Reality Show - by Amarok - June 11, 2018 at 1:06 am
RE: Trump Turns G-7 into a Reality Show - by Minimalist - June 11, 2018 at 2:34 am
RE: Trump Turns G-7 into a Reality Show - by Amarok - June 11, 2018 at 3:33 am
RE: Trump Turns G-7 into a Reality Show - by Amarok - June 11, 2018 at 5:45 am
RE: Trump Turns G-7 into a Reality Show - by Jehanne - June 11, 2018 at 10:28 am
RE: Trump Turns G-7 into a Reality Show - by Amarok - June 11, 2018 at 8:23 am
RE: Trump Turns G-7 into a Reality Show - by Joods - June 11, 2018 at 8:33 am
RE: Trump Turns G-7 into a Reality Show - by Amarok - June 11, 2018 at 10:02 am
RE: Trump Turns G-7 into a Reality Show - by Joods - June 11, 2018 at 10:40 am
RE: Trump Turns G-7 into a Reality Show - by Jehanne - June 11, 2018 at 10:56 am
RE: Trump Turns G-7 into a Reality Show - by Amarok - June 11, 2018 at 11:30 am
RE: Trump Turns G-7 into a Reality Show - by Brian37 - June 11, 2018 at 11:01 am
RE: Trump Turns G-7 into a Reality Show - by Anomalocaris - June 11, 2018 at 12:55 pm
RE: Trump Turns G-7 into a Reality Show - by Jehanne - June 11, 2018 at 12:46 pm
RE: Trump Turns G-7 into a Reality Show - by Fireball - June 11, 2018 at 2:22 pm
RE: Trump Turns G-7 into a Reality Show - by A Theist - June 11, 2018 at 5:27 pm
RE: Trump Turns G-7 into a Reality Show - by Amarok - June 11, 2018 at 5:40 pm
RE: Trump Turns G-7 into a Reality Show - by A Theist - June 11, 2018 at 5:49 pm
RE: Trump Turns G-7 into a Reality Show - by Amarok - June 11, 2018 at 6:11 pm
RE: Trump Turns G-7 into a Reality Show - by henryp - June 11, 2018 at 6:17 pm
RE: Trump Turns G-7 into a Reality Show - by Amarok - June 11, 2018 at 6:20 pm
RE: Trump Turns G-7 into a Reality Show - by A Theist - June 12, 2018 at 7:03 am
RE: Trump Turns G-7 into a Reality Show - by A Theist - June 12, 2018 at 11:40 am
RE: Trump Turns G-7 into a Reality Show - by unsapien - June 12, 2018 at 12:30 pm
RE: Trump Turns G-7 into a Reality Show - by Amarok - June 12, 2018 at 12:31 pm
RE: Trump Turns G-7 into a Reality Show - by Amarok - June 12, 2018 at 9:52 am
RE: Trump Turns G-7 into a Reality Show - by Crossless2.0 - June 12, 2018 at 10:25 am
RE: Trump Turns G-7 into a Reality Show - by Amarok - June 12, 2018 at 11:08 am
RE: Trump Turns G-7 into a Reality Show - by unsapien - June 11, 2018 at 9:11 pm
RE: Trump Turns G-7 into a Reality Show - by Amarok - June 11, 2018 at 9:45 pm
RE: Trump Turns G-7 into a Reality Show - by Minimalist - June 12, 2018 at 11:43 am
RE: Trump Turns G-7 into a Reality Show - by Anomalocaris - June 12, 2018 at 12:18 pm
RE: Trump Turns G-7 into a Reality Show - by Crossless2.0 - June 12, 2018 at 11:51 am
RE: Trump Turns G-7 into a Reality Show - by henryp - June 12, 2018 at 12:15 pm
RE: Trump Turns G-7 into a Reality Show - by Crossless2.0 - June 12, 2018 at 12:28 pm
RE: Trump Turns G-7 into a Reality Show - by henryp - June 12, 2018 at 12:39 pm
RE: Trump Turns G-7 into a Reality Show - by henryp - June 12, 2018 at 12:52 pm
RE: Trump Turns G-7 into a Reality Show - by Anomalocaris - June 12, 2018 at 12:59 pm
RE: Trump Turns G-7 into a Reality Show - by Crossless2.0 - June 12, 2018 at 1:04 pm
RE: Trump Turns G-7 into a Reality Show - by henryp - June 12, 2018 at 1:19 pm
RE: Trump Turns G-7 into a Reality Show - by henryp - June 12, 2018 at 1:45 pm
RE: Trump Turns G-7 into a Reality Show - by Amarok - June 12, 2018 at 1:43 pm
RE: Trump Turns G-7 into a Reality Show - by henryp - June 12, 2018 at 1:51 pm
RE: Trump Turns G-7 into a Reality Show - by henryp - June 13, 2018 at 9:20 am
RE: Trump Turns G-7 into a Reality Show - by Whateverist - June 13, 2018 at 12:11 pm
RE: Trump Turns G-7 into a Reality Show - by henryp - June 13, 2018 at 12:29 pm
RE: Trump Turns G-7 into a Reality Show - by henryp - June 13, 2018 at 2:16 pm
RE: Trump Turns G-7 into a Reality Show - by Minimalist - June 12, 2018 at 1:18 pm
RE: Trump Turns G-7 into a Reality Show - by Amarok - June 12, 2018 at 12:09 pm
RE: Trump Turns G-7 into a Reality Show - by Amarok - June 12, 2018 at 12:18 pm
RE: Trump Turns G-7 into a Reality Show - by Amarok - June 12, 2018 at 12:26 pm
RE: Trump Turns G-7 into a Reality Show - by Anomalocaris - June 12, 2018 at 12:31 pm
RE: Trump Turns G-7 into a Reality Show - by Amarok - June 12, 2018 at 12:44 pm
RE: Trump Turns G-7 into a Reality Show - by Amarok - June 12, 2018 at 1:34 pm
RE: Trump Turns G-7 into a Reality Show - by Amarok - June 12, 2018 at 1:48 pm
RE: Trump Turns G-7 into a Reality Show - by Amarok - June 12, 2018 at 1:52 pm
RE: Trump Turns G-7 into a Reality Show - by Amarok - June 12, 2018 at 2:00 pm
RE: Trump Turns G-7 into a Reality Show - by A Theist - June 12, 2018 at 2:23 pm
RE: Trump Turns G-7 into a Reality Show - by Amarok - June 12, 2018 at 3:39 pm
RE: Trump Turns G-7 into a Reality Show - by Amarok - June 12, 2018 at 2:32 pm
RE: Trump Turns G-7 into a Reality Show - by Amarok - June 12, 2018 at 2:38 pm
RE: Trump Turns G-7 into a Reality Show - by A Theist - June 12, 2018 at 3:11 pm
RE: Trump Turns G-7 into a Reality Show - by Amarok - June 12, 2018 at 3:12 pm
RE: Trump Turns G-7 into a Reality Show - by A Theist - June 12, 2018 at 4:21 pm
RE: Trump Turns G-7 into a Reality Show - by A Theist - June 12, 2018 at 4:57 pm
RE: Trump Turns G-7 into a Reality Show - by Amarok - June 12, 2018 at 9:57 pm
RE: Trump Turns G-7 into a Reality Show - by A Theist - June 13, 2018 at 12:03 pm
RE: Trump Turns G-7 into a Reality Show - by Amarok - June 13, 2018 at 6:10 pm
RE: Trump Turns G-7 into a Reality Show - by Amarok - June 13, 2018 at 1:06 am
RE: Trump Turns G-7 into a Reality Show - by Minimalist - June 13, 2018 at 12:59 pm
RE: Trump Turns G-7 into a Reality Show - by A Theist - June 13, 2018 at 6:55 pm
RE: Trump Turns G-7 into a Reality Show - by Amarok - June 13, 2018 at 8:42 pm
RE: Trump Turns G-7 into a Reality Show - by Pat Mustard - June 14, 2018 at 10:35 am

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