(July 17, 2018 at 2:11 am)Haipule Wrote:First I would rather have God's word on the subject as fallible men. Just where in the scriptures does it say that sin is passed own to a child through sex, answer that one for me if you dare.(July 16, 2018 at 1:19 am)Godscreated Wrote: The problem with you and FM is that you cherry pick what you want instead of trying to understand what the Bible is really saying. God promises to create another heaven and earth after the sin struck one is destroyed.Really Dude? Where in the Hebrew and Greek did God ever "create" anything? All the original verbs have to do with making(John 1), forming(asah: Adam), building(banah: Eve)! And God did NOT create from ex nilio! Because there is no such thing as "nothing". Just ask Nicola Tesla!
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Both Peter and Paul, on the same subject, are explaining to you that heaven(ouranos sky: up) and land(gE: down), authority structures, will all fall like dominos. Therefore, Peter asks us all, "what manner of man should we be?"
Why in hell would he ask that if there is going to be a "new" heaven and a "new" earth? ouranos sky, heaven: up authority. It is NOT all God in "Heaven":
“From the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven ]suffers violence, and violent men ]take it by force. Matthew 11:12 NASB.
The Greek word basileia, translated "kingdom", means rulership and not realm; it means dominion not domain; it means king not kingdom.
Dude! It's just up and down! Am I making this too difficult for you?
You seem to be making this far more difficult for yourself than me, Peter and Paul were asking what kind of man would we need to be to be accepted into the kingdom. The men God makes us through Jesus Christ. The kingdom is the Christian church ie. believers in Jesus Christ and before his birth John was a believer. Scriptures were never meant to be difficult, Jesus himself said He came for the poor, the down trodden, the lowly, the troubled and the weak. These are all people who would not have a great understanding of the old Hebrew and Greek. The scriptures were translated to read as they are for the most part, so that those who could not understand a complicated read could understand what scripture was saying.
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God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.