RE: Anyone here a Category 7?
August 21, 2018 at 10:06 am
(This post was last modified: August 21, 2018 at 10:20 am by The Grand Nudger.)
(August 21, 2018 at 9:16 am)vulcanlogician Wrote: Like I said in the other thread: "God exists" is not a falsifiable hypothesis. Therefore complete certainty can never be obtained.I disagree.
Quote:Claiming certainty where there is insufficient evidence is for theists. I'd like to think we're better than that.Is there insufficient evidence to conclude that gods exist as pomp in narratives built around the hazy perceptions of the human mind? Or.... even..that they are a physical product of biological origin? I don't think so.
They're asking me whether or not bigfoot exists... while pointing at their cat.
Now, sure, we could rabbit hole what ifs such as "but what if it's also that other thing that i assert it is!". They're wondering about the cat, and after having had it explained to them that it is a cat, this is simply the insistence that maybe cats are also bigfoot. The moon might also, somehow, be made out of cheese and rock and not be the moon..simultaneously.
We can never know, right?
Comments regarding the availability of knowledge aren't exactly specific to god questions. Those are general complaints that people either do or don't find compelling...or, more commonly in the god context, do -and- don't find compelling out of convenience. It makes about as much sense to claim that "the sun exists" is an unfalsifiable hypothesis and we can never know for certain. Maybe the sun is also the rock and cheese moon..except when it's not (but even then!!!)!...but that the existence of god is falsifiable, can be known, and is true.
-ad infinitum
Me, I'm just going to note that the ticks of our mind are not timeless, they do not create or sustain this world or this universe, they have no divine ability whatsoever. They aren't living in the sacred woods or residing in the effigy, they don't fill a sacred temple with their presence...they don't grant wishes, they don't run a themepark for the dead, they aren't watching me pee..or shake it more the the approved number of times. They hear no prayers and answer no appeals. They favor no particular moral screed, they write no magic books. They have no agency whatsoever...hell..we're barely scraping by on that as a whole being, lol.
So..no, point of fact, gods don't exist, I know it, because of what I know about gods...not because of what I don't or, allegedly..can't.
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