RE: Anyone here a Category 7?
August 22, 2018 at 2:30 pm
(This post was last modified: August 22, 2018 at 2:39 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
Alot of people get the order of progression wrong when it comes to gods. The nebulous ones are positively ancient. The march to monotheism has not been one of increased ambiguity, but ever spiraling specificity..to the point of inanity.
When a christian, confronted with objections, retreats to "the god of the philosophers"..the philosophers they're referring to were pagan greeks. Even beyond that, we see evidence of spirituality or religiousity for tens of thousands of years before we see any evidence of a concrete belief in a gods, or a specific god.
I know that it can feel like nailing jello to a lake, getting some consistent definition of god out of theists (or out of the record of belief) - but since every single one of those definitions can be (and is) flawed, can be (and is) unevidenced, can be (and does) have contravening evidence against it..it doesn't matter how many we come up with. I can predict with confidence that the next god we come up will not be any more existent than those that have come before it. The category itself is the problem..not any specific representative of the set.
The plurality of god ideas is no barrier to knowledge. Or, if one prefers, the plurality of ideas...about anything.... -is- a barrier to knowledge..about everything. This goes back to something jorg mentioned a few pages ago. Knowledge..as in knowledge itself, is hotly debated. This issue isn't specific to gods. I do think..though, that regardless of what side of -that- issue we come down on..we ought to make sure we apply it consistently.
When a christian, confronted with objections, retreats to "the god of the philosophers"..the philosophers they're referring to were pagan greeks. Even beyond that, we see evidence of spirituality or religiousity for tens of thousands of years before we see any evidence of a concrete belief in a gods, or a specific god.
I know that it can feel like nailing jello to a lake, getting some consistent definition of god out of theists (or out of the record of belief) - but since every single one of those definitions can be (and is) flawed, can be (and is) unevidenced, can be (and does) have contravening evidence against it..it doesn't matter how many we come up with. I can predict with confidence that the next god we come up will not be any more existent than those that have come before it. The category itself is the problem..not any specific representative of the set.
The plurality of god ideas is no barrier to knowledge. Or, if one prefers, the plurality of ideas...about anything.... -is- a barrier to knowledge..about everything. This goes back to something jorg mentioned a few pages ago. Knowledge..as in knowledge itself, is hotly debated. This issue isn't specific to gods. I do think..though, that regardless of what side of -that- issue we come down on..we ought to make sure we apply it consistently.
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