RE: ISIS is to Islam as the KKK is to Christianity
September 20, 2018 at 6:48 am
(This post was last modified: September 20, 2018 at 7:05 am by The Grand Nudger.)
The very first words in your new link...
I applaud modern muslims, with their relatively secularized and western values combined with a moderated faith. It's good to see that they have left the original shape of islam behind...even if guys like ISIS haven't.
There's no need for revisionism in that, though. You're a better person than the prophet and all of his men. The countries muslims flee to today are improved in every respect compared to the caliphate. You'd be an abject failure if you weren't - just as I would be an abject failure if I was running around doing what my forebearers did in the 6th and 7th centuries. Just as any nation today that attempts what they achieved then is decried as a terrorist state.
Frankly, had ISIS contented themselves at the summit of their organizational ability with the territory and resources then under their control - it's entirely likely that they could have arisen from the ashes of war as a credible governing authority. Their ambition exceeded their abilities, inspired by a revisionist view of history not at all dissimilar to your own (and that's not the only point of agreement between you, lol), and a belief that they were doing the work of allah entirely like that of the early muslim conquerors. They sought to do what was once done so well - and failed.
It's often noted about and between abrahamics...that their decency as human beings is directly proportionate and inverse to their religiosity. Believers who reject that notion as stated, for their part, often parse this as a difference between fundamentalist and reformed theology - but..ofc, this only serves to demonstrate the point further.
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I applaud modern muslims, with their relatively secularized and western values combined with a moderated faith. It's good to see that they have left the original shape of islam behind...even if guys like ISIS haven't.
There's no need for revisionism in that, though. You're a better person than the prophet and all of his men. The countries muslims flee to today are improved in every respect compared to the caliphate. You'd be an abject failure if you weren't - just as I would be an abject failure if I was running around doing what my forebearers did in the 6th and 7th centuries. Just as any nation today that attempts what they achieved then is decried as a terrorist state.
Frankly, had ISIS contented themselves at the summit of their organizational ability with the territory and resources then under their control - it's entirely likely that they could have arisen from the ashes of war as a credible governing authority. Their ambition exceeded their abilities, inspired by a revisionist view of history not at all dissimilar to your own (and that's not the only point of agreement between you, lol), and a belief that they were doing the work of allah entirely like that of the early muslim conquerors. They sought to do what was once done so well - and failed.
It's often noted about and between abrahamics...that their decency as human beings is directly proportionate and inverse to their religiosity. Believers who reject that notion as stated, for their part, often parse this as a difference between fundamentalist and reformed theology - but..ofc, this only serves to demonstrate the point further.
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