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Replacing Christianity with Islam
August 19, 2017 at 11:08 am
(This post was last modified: August 19, 2017 at 11:09 am by Catholic_Lady.)
This question was raised in another thread so I figured I'd start a poll so there wouldn't be any assumptions. This question is for atheists only.
If you could, would you replace all of Christianity with Islam right now?
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RE: Replacing Christianity with Islam
August 19, 2017 at 11:08 am
A pox on both their houses !!
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RE: Replacing Christianity with Islam
August 19, 2017 at 11:14 am
That kind of a stupid question...but whatevs...
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RE: Replacing Christianity with Islam
August 19, 2017 at 11:19 am
(August 19, 2017 at 11:14 am)pocaracas Wrote: That kind of a stupid question...but whatevs...
Yeah, I thought so too. But someone who I'm pretty sure is a troll was arguing about it so I figured I'd lay it to rest.
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RE: Replacing Christianity with Islam
August 19, 2017 at 11:29 am
(August 19, 2017 at 11:19 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: (August 19, 2017 at 11:14 am)pocaracas Wrote: That kind of a stupid question...but whatevs...
Yeah, I thought so too. But someone who I'm pretty sure is a troll was arguing about it so I figured I'd lay it to rest.
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Not sure if he is a troll or a real dumbass evangelical. We need a none of the above poll option.
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RE: Replacing Christianity with Islam
August 19, 2017 at 11:30 am
(August 19, 2017 at 11:08 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: This question was raised in another thread so I figured I'd start a poll so there wouldn't be any assumptions. This question is for atheists only.
If you could, would you replace all of Christianity with Islam right now?
You have been on this board how long? You should know better.
NEITHER.
Western pluralism does not involve government choosing one religion over another.
Jefferson and Paine were wise enough to understand how different religious sects would compete for power. The colonies prior to the founding were far more theocratic and divided. You can look to Sunnis and Shiites in today's middle east to know what religion can do to political diplomacy.
I seriously don't understand where this came from. Just because we criticize and blaspheme Christianity does not mean atheists favor replacing it with Islam. If you have ever read our responses to Atlass33 our resident Muslim you would know that we treat every religion the same.
I value human rights, not religious pecking orders sanctioned by government favoring 1 religion over another.
Neither Christianity or Islam own a patent on morality, and both the Koran and bible, have BOTH been used by liberals in their ranks to justify compassion, but those same books have been used by right wing violent people in both religions to justify cruelty to others.
So no, I want common law, not a Christian or Muslim theocracy.
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RE: Replacing Christianity with Islam
August 19, 2017 at 12:39 pm
(August 19, 2017 at 11:19 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: (August 19, 2017 at 11:14 am)pocaracas Wrote: That kind of a stupid question...but whatevs...
Yeah, I thought so too. But someone who I'm pretty sure is a troll was arguing about it so I figured I'd lay it to rest.
Islam is pretty much Christianity from the dark ages, they are both stupid and dangerous.
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RE: Replacing Christianity with Islam
August 19, 2017 at 12:57 pm
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(August 19, 2017 at 12:39 pm)Aoi Magi Wrote: (August 19, 2017 at 11:19 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Yeah, I thought so too. But someone who I'm pretty sure is a troll was arguing about it so I figured I'd lay it to rest.
Islam is pretty much Christianity from the dark ages, they are both stupid and dangerous.
I agree, but again, since we live on a planet of billions of both Christians and Muslims it would be a bit unrealistic to claim you could rid the world of it. The best you can do is foster scrutiny of religion, and keep a leash on it and foster critical thinking skills.
But yea, all three of the religions of Abraham, Jewish, Christianity and Islam all stem from the same tribal God. And all of those religions started in an age of rival kingships.
Religion, and not just those three, but religions in human history are really nothing but artificial reflections of our real evolutionary social grouping in seeking social order.
Religion wont go away but it must be seen more as a horrible way of conducting political diplomacy. The founders knew religion, even under the same umbrella labels, would compete between the different sects for political power. That is why they came up with concepts of neutrality in the First Amendment and the oath of office.
Or as Jefferson put it, "a wall between Church and state."
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RE: Replacing Christianity with Islam
August 19, 2017 at 1:11 pm
I'll vote no, only because I don't know much about Islam.
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RE: Replacing Christianity with Islam
August 19, 2017 at 1:27 pm
Do we get to pick which version of christianity? For some versions (Christian Identity or West Burrow Baptist for example) it would be a difficult choice.
Do we get to pick which version of of Islam? Same reasoning.
With all of the different forms on both sides, one is not necessarily better than the other.
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