RE: Anyone here a Category 7?
September 27, 2018 at 12:38 pm
(This post was last modified: September 27, 2018 at 12:43 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(September 27, 2018 at 12:03 pm)vulcanlogician Wrote: Let's not get caught up on words. Somewhere along the line somebody coined the term "pantheism." A religion of nature is certainly possible. But "nature worship" usually refers to people who worship the winds, the sun, and other stuff. Pantheism says that THE ALL is divine. Nature AND its laws.A guy named Babakrishna has things that fit the term god that the universe doesn't. I agree that pantheism is appropriate in it's own way..but that way is very idiosyncratic. So much so that the pantheists god is no challenge to my knowledge that there are no gods. They may as well call themselves hotdogists.
Look at it this way. If I were to sell all my shit, go to India, cast of my sandals and spend my days and nights worshipping some Hari Babakrishna dude. You might say that I consider this Babakrishna guy to be "God." The term pantheism fits because what does the pantheist consider God? The all. Hence pantheism is appropriate in a way.
Quote:I admit, it's leading to difficulties in our conversation. The weak point in the pantheist view is that it has a difficult time answering the question: "Why call it God?" I get that. But, as it is, the "belief system" is distinguishable from materialism for the reasons I've laid out. We've got to call it something. Somewhere along the lines some dude said "it's pantheism." Sure. I could think of worse words.Some are more inaccurate than others.
One little issue is that it is conflated with "deism where God is material and endowed with human-like individuality." Remember that guy, Quick, who posted for a couple months? He called himself a pantheist, but was hardly a Spinozist. Meh. Whatever. Words are inaccurate.
This isn't just a word problem, though....as my earlier example about cookies and my brother demonstrates. Pantheists consider the universe, or nature, or the all..if you prefer, a god. Well, my kids might consider me a jake.
I'm not, neither is the universe ( a jake -or- a god, lol)....even if my poor kids misattributed a bunch of shit and feel a sense of reverence in my presence.
(and they -will- feel a sense of reverence...or the punishment will continue until attitudes improve!)
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