RE: So, Brits. How's Brexit Going?
October 21, 2018 at 8:13 am
(This post was last modified: October 21, 2018 at 8:17 am by GUBU.)
(October 21, 2018 at 3:26 am)Jade-Green Stone Wrote:(July 9, 2018 at 11:36 am)Minimalist Wrote: https://www.rawstory.com/2018/07/uks-bre...son-steps/
As someone once noted: Left to themselves, things tend to go from bad to worse.
Of course, when you add grandstanding politicians into the mix it can really fuck things up.
This is proves how small my bubble is about the larger world, but then again I don't watch the news all that's on at my house, and all that is ever allowed is Fox News and trusted sites. AKA little info about the truth and more so propaganda that makes your ears bleed out anything relevant and you become a soul dead conservative zombie too this bullshit, luckily logic, reason, and questioning things save me from it.
Moving on, No idea what this Brexit plan is, searching it up as we speak/type. But from the sound of it, reminds me of what happens every time someone is left by themselves. Countries remind me of little kids, leave them alone for two seconds you come back to what you hope is brown marker on the walls.
The brexit plan is, simply: "Hope that the EU doesn't ralise that it's no longer 1850 and we no longer rule half the world and then we'll be able to intimidate them into giving us all the benefits of membership without suffering any of the obligations".
There are two problems with this plan 1) The UK no longer rules half the world, it barely rules the island of Britain and 2) the EU's existence depends on everybody playing by the same rules, if the UK got a sweetheart deal the EU falls apart.
Oh, and on the DUP's tripe about not letting Northern Ireland be part of a separate customs arrangement from Britain, it already is part of such an arrangement. What the DUP are trying to do is turn back the clock in the 6 counties to 1921 in a vain attempt to negate the nationalist majority coming in five years or so.
(October 21, 2018 at 4:54 am)Mathilda Wrote:(October 21, 2018 at 3:26 am)Jade-Green Stone Wrote: Moving on, No idea what this Brexit plan is
There is no viable Brexit plan. There can't be. Any plan will basically be shit for the country and the economy. And the the country is too divided to agree to anything. No remainer is going to agree to a plan. They want Brexit cancelled. The Leave side is bitterly divided too between those who want a soft Brexit that tries to keep the best things about being in the EU and those who want an all out hard Brexit and want rid of it completely.
So the default is a hard Brexit with no deal. And regardless of the fear this happening, it's almost impossible to avoid because of the Northern Ireland issue. A hard Brexit means a border between the country of Ireland and Northern Ireland which is part of the United Kingdom. And this means the troubles come back (terrorism, shootings, bombs etc). The peace treaty that stopped the troubles insists on there being no border. The EU wants there to be a border in the Irish Sea instead. The Northern Irish party popping up the British government insist that this is unacceptable as they don't want Northern Ireland separated from the UK and they are willing to call another general election if the Tories agree to it.
So in a word, we're utterly fucked unless we can get a second referendum and stop it before next March. But the Tories want Brexit and they are the ones in power for the moment. But nor is there any viable opposition to the Tories because the leader of the opposition also wants Brexit so he can reshape the country according to his ideological beliefs. The Tories just want to asset strip the country and profit from it personally.
At this stage a second referendum won't work. The negotiation stratetgy of "piss of every European government at every turn" has seen to that. At this stage only Ireland, and msybe Hungary will vote to allow a revocation of Art. 50.
It is a consequence of the English failing of thinking they are the only side that matters in EU negotiations.
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