RE: Atheist Bible Study 1: Genesis
October 26, 2018 at 11:47 am
(This post was last modified: October 26, 2018 at 12:26 pm by Bucky Ball.)
(October 26, 2018 at 9:37 am)Drich Wrote:(October 25, 2018 at 12:56 pm)these stories after the exodus when the served the people better and before keeping them from being completely assimilated into the egyptian culture. Wrote: your hypostasis doesn't even make sense time line wise. the jew were jews in captivity/before the exodus, so then why would they all of a sudden need
It's "hypothesis", you idiot. Have you ever considered getting an education ?
hy·pos·ta·sis
/hīˈpästəsəs/
noun
- 1.
MEDICINE
the accumulation of fluid or blood in the lower parts of the body or organs under the influence of gravity, as occurs in cases of poor circulation or after death.
- 2.
PHILOSOPHY
an underlying reality or substance, as opposed to attributes or that which lacks substance.
There is NO EVIDENCE Jews were ever in captivity in Egypt .....
But thank you for that .... I now get the totally ignorant level of knowledge of history you have. It's about 3rd Grade.
Egypt controlled and ruled the ENTIRE Near East. Why would the Jews go from one place they controlled to another the Egyptians controlled, in an attempt to "escape".
The fact is, your Bible is totally bogus, historically. They made it up.
What IS is interesting, is that Israel DID force males to work for the king one month a year. They HATED it. And it is the reason the Northern Kingdom broke from the Southern Kingdom. When they "wrote" the "story", they made it look like they "escaped" .... but in fact it was their OWN king's policies they hated.
From a paper I wrote : (which will be posted eventually in it's entirety).
"Just as the Confederacy is "remembered" in US history, in nostalgic terms by the defeated, so in the time of Solomon, the Jewish Tribal Confederation .. (before the kingship was established) was "remembered" and many resented the changes and hated the monarchy and "remembered" the "old days" of the independent Tribal Era. The Kingdom of Solomon had come from the unification of the Tribal territories with the new territory which David had conquered in the South. Solomon was a master politician. Literally every king in the ancient Near East was his father-in-law, as he had multiple wives, and contributed to his building projects. Solomon taxed everyone, but spent more, and gave more to his tribe in Judah. He neglected the North, which already resented him for his treatment of Abiathar, (the priest). Solomon did two more things which made him hated by the North. He "gerrymandered" 12 administrative "districts" which did NOT correspond to the old tribal territories, in an attempt to "confuse" the old tribal boundaries, for tax purposes, which did NOT include Judah, and he instituted a policy of "missim", or forced physical labor for his building projects. Males had to give a month a year of labor to the king. Sound familiar ? Forced labor. In the Book of Exodus, the Egyptian supervisors were named as "officers of the missim". Is it possible the words in Exodus were meant to insult Solomon, when they were later written, and specifically refer to HIM ? Hmm. When Solomon died, his son Rehoboam goes North to be crowned, and the elders ask him if he is going to continue the hated policies of Solomon, and he says "Yes". Immediately the Northern Tribes secede. The leaders of the North also stoned, and they killed the chief of the "missim". They HATED the forced labor policy.
Remember ... no Bible exists yet. It has not even been started.
So after the secession, Rehoboam ruled only Judah, in the South, and also over the smaller tribe of Benjamin, which Judah dominated. In the North, they chose a king named Jeroboam, and thus the Kingdom of David became two kingdoms. The two similar, but different names had at least a partial meaning of "he who expands his area/territory", or "king who conquers more lands". Jeroboam made the old seat in Shechem his capital in the North. Rehoboam remained in Jerusalem, in the South.
The very TOP Israeli archaeologists (who have THE MOST to gain or lose with the story being CONFIRMED), have denied almost ALL the major elements of "Bible history".
They simply wrote it as "myth", ... in the sense that the famous German theologian, Rudolf Bultmann, presents "mythology" as the way the ancients present what they thought was "truth" ... a truth deeper than historical details. The tragedy of American Fundamentalism, as espoused by Literal Evangelicalism, is they miss the forest for the trees.
(October 26, 2018 at 9:37 am)Drich Wrote:So you never read the Book of Nehemiah I see.empty conjecture and proofless speculation..
There are MOUNTAINS of proof for these commonly accepted concepts in Biblical Studies.
Your Sunday School level of nonsense is perfectly evident. You're an ignorant amateur here.
None of this is "my hypothesis".
The fact you say this proves you know absolutely NOTHING about the current state of academic writing and research in Biblical Studies.
I can provide scholarly evidence for everything I say.
"Who Wrote the Bible" Dr. Richard Elliott Friedman
"How the Bible Became a Book" Dr. William Schneidewind
Enlightened Jews know the Exodus never happened.
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/staks-ros...08123.html
Every religion is true one way or another. It is true when understood metaphorically. But when it gets stuck in its own metaphors, interpreting them as facts, then you are in trouble. - Joseph Campbell 
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