RE: Atheist Bible Study 1: Genesis
October 26, 2018 at 12:41 pm
(This post was last modified: October 26, 2018 at 2:03 pm by Bucky Ball.)
(October 26, 2018 at 12:31 pm)Drich Wrote:(October 26, 2018 at 11:47 am)Bucky Ball Wrote: It's "hypothesis", you idiot. Have you ever considered getting an education ?fake news... but at least everything was spelled ok.. guess that means you can still be considered to be smart in your circles even if everything you believe is foolishly wrong..
hy·pos·ta·sis
/hīˈpästəsəs/
noun
The Jews were NEVER "in captivity" in Egypt. Egypt did not "keep slaves" for their work projects. Archaeology knows that.
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There is NO EVIDENCE Jews were ever in captivity in Egypt .....
But thank you for that .... I now get the totally ignorant level of knowledge of history you have. It's about 3rd Grade.
Egypt controlled and ruled the ENTIRE Near East. Why would the Jews go from one place they controlled to another the Egyptians controlled, in an attempt to "escape".
The fact is, your Bible is totally bogus, historically. They made it up.
What IS is interesting, is that Israel DID force males to work for the king one month a year. They HATED it. And it is the reason the Northern Kingdom broke from the Southern Kingdom. When they "wrote" the "story", they made it look like they "escaped" .... but in fact it was their OWN king's policies they hated.
From a paper I wrote : (which will be posted eventually in it's entirety).
"Just as the Confederacy is "remembered" in US history, in nostalgic terms by the defeated, so in the time of Solomon, the Jewish Tribal Confederation .. (before the kingship was established) was "remembered" and many resented the changes and hated the monarchy and "remembered" the "old days" of the independent Tribal Era. The Kingdom of Solomon had come from the unification of the Tribal territories with the new territory which David had conquered in the South. Solomon was a master politician. Literally every king in the ancient Near East was his father-in-law, as he had multiple wives, and contributed to his building projects. Solomon taxed everyone, but spent more, and gave more to his tribe in Judah. He neglected the North, which already resented him for his treatment of Abiathar, (the priest). Solomon did two more things which made him hated by the North. He "gerrymandered" 12 administrative "districts" which did NOT correspond to the old tribal territories, in an attempt to "confuse" the old tribal boundaries, for tax purposes, which did NOT include Judah, and he instituted a policy of "missim", or forced physical labor for his building projects. Males had to give a month a year of labor to the king. Sound familiar ? Forced labor. In the Book of Exodus, the Egyptian supervisors were named as "officers of the missim". Is it possible the words in Exodus were meant to insult Solomon, when they were later written, and specifically refer to HIM ? Hmm. When Solomon died, his son Rehoboam goes North to be crowned, and the elders ask him if he is going to continue the hated policies of Solomon, and he says "Yes". Immediately the Northern Tribes secede. The leaders of the North also stoned, and they killed the chief of the "missim". They HATED the forced labor policy.
Remember ... no Bible exists yet. It has not even been started.
So after the secession, Rehoboam ruled only Judah, in the South, and also over the smaller tribe of Benjamin, which Judah dominated. In the North, they chose a king named Jeroboam, and thus the Kingdom of David became two kingdoms. The two similar, but different names had at least a partial meaning of "he who expands his area/territory", or "king who conquers more lands". Jeroboam made the old seat in Shechem his capital in the North. Rehoboam remained in Jerusalem, in the South.
The very TOP Israeli archaeologists (who have THE MOST to gain or lose with the story being CONFIRMED), have denied almost ALL the major elements of "Bible history".
They simply wrote it as "myth", ... in the sense that the famous German theologian, Rudolf Bultmann, presents "mythology" as the way the ancients present what they thought was "truth" ... a truth deeper than historical details. The tragedy of American Fundamentalism, as espoused by Literal Evangelicalism, is they miss the forest for the trees.
this establishes a time line that highly contradicts you it also puts the Jews as slaves in egypt.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJZ9QQv6gCk
avaris and proof Joseph and the Jews lived here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLNiftDZXYA
and if you have the huevos to have your whole little world rocked in great detail with examinations of many many different points of evidence here is a longer video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEm-ovpMM5c
Now understand the difference between what you posted and what the videos have??? REAL EVIDENCE do you know this word??? it is the difference betwenn you making crap up/fake news and a very likely interpretation of what actually went down.
Lest you can bring some evidence to the party that counters what has been offered via the videos just keep your speculative nonsense to yourself..
I did. THE best archaeologists and scholars known. (Of course you don't know them as you're a "fake expert".
You Fundy crap videos are ALL Fake News.
The Jews themselves know the Exodus is all bogus, (as my link PROVES) and YOU have not a shred of evidence for it.
Almost a million people wandering around in a desert ? LMAO.
NOT ONE shred of evidence they were ever there.
History KNOWS (no matter what your crap videos make up) that EGYPT controlled the entire Near East INCLUDING Canaan ... why in hell would they go from Egypt to Canaan when Egypt was the master of Canaan ALSO.
Yeah ... you got nothing. Your holy book is nothing but mythology.
A person who doesn't know the difference between an hypothesis and what hypo-stasis is ought to be going back to get a GED, not pretending they actually know something.
BTW, you exposed yourself for the lying troll you are. From the time I posted it, to your response, there was not time to watch even part of the video.
Lying for Jesus is still lying.
Again, are the likes of you the best your Jebus can do. Please pray he sends someone competent. You're fighting OLD settled fights that are LONG AGO settled. No scholar actually still buys into the Exodus.
You're about 50 years behind the times.
You yourself did not take even ONE actual historical point in everything I wrote, and, with evidence, explain why it's wrong. You are not competent to do so. All you can do is post crap you are not capable of justifying or explaining.
Some REAL history
Simcha Jacobovici is NOT an archaeologist, nor is he in any way an expert on anything relevant.
"His parents were from Iași, Romania.[1] Simcha Jacobovici earned a B.A. in Philosophy and Political Science (with honors) from McGill University and an M.A. in International Relations from the University of Toronto. He is an Adjunct Professor of Religious Studies at Huntington University,[2] an affiliate of Laurentian University in Sudbury, Ontario. Jacobovici has been a guest lecturer at numerous conferences and on various campuses including Yale University, Johns Hopkins University, McGill University, UCLA and . He is married and the father of five children." He's not even trained in the Bible. Do try harder finding some evidence.
The evidence I posted was from actual experts.
Every religion is true one way or another. It is true when understood metaphorically. But when it gets stuck in its own metaphors, interpreting them as facts, then you are in trouble. - Joseph Campbell 
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