(October 26, 2018 at 3:10 pm)ronedee Wrote: Sorry, late to the show but here is the meaning of Genesis 1.1
1. In the [beginning] God created, the [Heaven] and the [Earth].
There you have it: Time - Space - Matter.... in the proper order I might add! All dependent on each other.
If they are dependent on each other how can there be a "proper order"?
How is time or space dependent on matter?
Quote:God isn't dependent on any of these items. We are! And to think God is subject to His own creation is dumb.
Saying "before the beginning", is doing just that. Nothing "but" God predates time!
If you want to understand God, you have to first think like Him!
Isaiah 55:8-9
8 For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the Lord.
9 For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.
.... more later! maybe
If his thoughts are not our thoughts then we can't think like him so by your logic we can't understand him. Basically you have managed to prove that if the god you believe in exists you can't know anything about it and therefore have no grounds to believe. Good job!