(November 19, 2018 at 1:12 pm)Drich Wrote:(November 19, 2018 at 12:50 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: Christianity is based upon the vicarious redemption of mans soul through the torture and murder of some better guy.
This is not love, this is base and disturbing self interest.
If one willing subjected himself through that torture and murder to save everyone else, you in your hard heart can not see an act of love? That is all I can see. it also spurs me to do more for you than I normally would as more was done for me than what I could ever ask. through love through agape' I inturn do more, to take the extra step to walk this next year with you all, because of the love i was shown.
There is no self intrest here. I make no money I make no record of victories and or losses I am simply here to show the support and love I was shown when I was in a similar spot.
Actions are by their intentions. I can do a similar act, but it might be tainted by ignorant intentions.
As for God he has the highest and noblest and most loving of intentions. A humanization of sacrifice comes nothing close to his love.
It's better for us to rely on his love and call the non-human God state of being, then a human incarnation of God, because the latter is limited even if we were to give incarnation as a rational possibility.
The act of accepting God's absolute forgiving nature, takes one to love God and know that he wishes to fix his servants corruption by them turning to him sincerely and seeking his forgiveness by regretting their past actions.
The only thing is God sometimes emphasizes on his punishment with his forgiveness, so that we don't deceive ourselves and become perpetual sinners.
Most people who believe in God take advantage of God's compassionate and forgiving nature, myself included. It's the hardest thing not to.
So how to stop sinning when he constantly forgives? Love eventually has to submit to God and accept his glory and light in the soul, that he is worthy of obedience regardless of personal interest.
Although all striving at the end is for ourselves, and whoever does good, almost always does it for their own benefit, at the end, the highest submission is when we let go of all personal interest, and go by "my life and death is for God the Lord of the Worlds".
As noble as Zeratuls "my life for Aiur" sounds, when we truly don't obey God for our own benefit, but out of sheer love and don't hope for our forgiveness over others, but love his creation as much as us, with no concept of us being more important, till, that truth is suited in the heart, the devil can influence us and corrupt our intentions in all our actions.
It's like the water temple where Link fights his dark self in Zelda ocarina of time, the purification temple at the end is all about defeat the mirror intention in all our actions, the one from the false and dark self of Iblis, that rules humanity to this day.
Jesus let himself appear to be killed, by going on the cross and what not, only to come back, and sacrificed his whole life for the sake of God and allowed people to do what they did to him for the sake of God, because he knew it would be a sign of guidance, and that it would display that God can protect any servant and keep them alive, even if by the general rules, a soul would have departed and died, he came back.
To me that is proof he never died, but it appeared like that. So it was a feign death as the video games put it.
Wishing you well and peace.
