RE: Atheist Bible Study 1: Genesis
December 14, 2018 at 1:16 pm
(This post was last modified: December 14, 2018 at 1:54 pm by Drich.)
(December 14, 2018 at 1:01 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: Love the "do as I say and not as I do" theory of sin, buried in all of that.
It is good to be the boss.
We kill because our hearts demand it with no consideration or no idea how it will effect the future. God takes a life or a people to preserve this earth. Meaning if he kills he knows how that death will affect eternity. we kill because we want someone dead. God killed to bring us to this point in time... or do you not understand that humanity as a whole could have been stuck in mud huts or better yet died out if history did not unfold as it had? what if one of those people God had killed was patient zero to a zombie virus (zombie meaning any pandemic easily transmitted wiping out most if not all humanity)
God killed a lot of nasty people who would have seen the end of the jews which would mean the end of eternity future for the rest of us.
(December 14, 2018 at 1:15 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: You are not an authority, Drich. Jesus was an authority. Big difference. You're nothing but a sinful human, whose primary sin is pride. Something you have in abundance and which is what prompts a lot of your remarks. Jesus wasn't motivated by sin. Yet another big difference. Physician, heal thyself.
Quote:16 These six things doth the Lord hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:
17 A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,
18 An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,
19 A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.
Psalms 6:16-19, KJV
you are right I a not an authority, as Christ was but I represent authority, as Christ commissioned me. I walk in the foot step of authority. I study his example and follow it closly.. not the religious BS most of you got destroyed by but by what the bible actully says! I act and model my life after this authority. Now again from day one post one my mission statement define my involvement and limits my involvement here my adherence to this mission statement and my involvement with you all despite all the attacks to my person and even in some cases to my family show the exact opposite of personal pride. If personal pride was my motivator then I would not be able to stay on mission nor put up with the attacks.
Pride or damage to pride is why 'others' come and go. Only someone without personal pride can stand alone, in a chat full of people with nothing but ill will towards him his intelligence his personal attributes his family and his God. To be insulted and slammed day in day out no matter how much work effort and research is put in to have everything shit on all the time and never once for 6 to 20 hours a week if not more not receive anything reward or even a good word after what 5 or 6 years?? No there is no personal pride here. Do a role call and see how many of those who you all in the last 6 months or so have been blasting are still here. now ask yourself why am I if I NEVER received anything but contempt and vitriol.
I am here not because of my pride but the pride God has bestowed on me. It is not my pride you see but the Holy Spirit in me. I take tremendous pride in being supported by the direct hand of God not only in my business but in my efforts here to see him every day to have him give me the answers and knowledge I have been given access to. no where I use it or not is sometimes on me, but the support is there. and further more I will be here so long as God supports me. because I have personally ot desire to stand against the tide. I do it because I have been empowered to do so, and nothing you can say or do will change that. Only god shifting me into another role can do this. I will stand this post till I am relieved.
If you don't like that that too bad, there is alot of things I do not like about you too. Lord willing I will live and you will too despite all your distaste.
(December 11, 2018 at 6:26 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: I don't think anybody is 100% evil, even if I were to accept the other ideas about sin at face value.
That is why I said not all sin is evil. evil is a case by case classification. however we are all sinful. While sin is death God understand we are not in 100% control of sin. that we are slaves to sin. which is why we have been give Christ to atone for sin. This demands everyone seek atonement/freedom from the law.
Christ atones for sin not intentional habitual self serving evil. which is all supported in scripture where as
the moral neutrality "soap box preaching" tach att was doing is a personal thought based on a works based salvation which demands everyone 'be a good person.'
Jeus says there are no good people not meaning we are bad. He means there is no one good enough. meaning you can not do enough good to get to heaven, if you are not able to do enough good then spiritual neutrality becomes false doctrine or false hope./It is not what Christ taught IE you are not worship the God of the NT bible if you think you can be good enough for heaven.