RE: Atheist Bible Study 1: Genesis
February 20, 2019 at 10:39 am
(This post was last modified: February 20, 2019 at 11:04 am by Drich.)
(February 19, 2019 at 10:14 pm)Grandizer Wrote: I'm not seeing it the way you're seeing it, Drich. In Genesis, it's clear Abraham was redeemed through faith and adherence to God's laws. The hope is probably that many nations will arise from him, and the whole world will be blessed through him. Abraham, for all his flaws and weaknesses, comes out as one of the good guys in the Bible.
None of that is erased by also having a Superman figure in the Bible. And even then the stories aren't meant to serve as just simply entertaining stories, there are all sorts of lessons to take from them that the Israelites would've found valuable. And if that means having a boringly all-powerful Superman being do this and that, so be it. As long as the messages are clear and the lessons are valuable, that's how they derived their hope.
here' the thing about the idea of abraham being redeemed by God's law... (maybe what I see and you don't.) There was no law of God in the time of Abraham. So there was no need of redemption as we understand it. God blessed abraham simpy because at his core Abraham wanted to live in the will of God before there was ever such a command.
As such I am simply pointing out a story arch you identified spans 4000 years and is not just limited to this book, which makes it alittle more than a camp fire story.
(February 20, 2019 at 12:51 am)Bucky Ball Wrote:(February 19, 2019 at 5:24 pm)Drich Wrote: but as i just pointed out how could have the writter of genesis seen the larger arch that 2000 years to play out? yes I have read the book in it's completeed form but the guy writting this story in genesis didn't. so for him to lay the foundatons to an arch that would be completed 2000 year after his work was written is well more than a fluke.
You really should take Bible 101.
It was not an arch of 2000 years, and there was no "played out". Seriously ... you actually know nothing about how and when the Bible was written.
Truly amazing that people whose cults are built on this collection of texts actually know next to nothing about it.
hey stupid...
Read what I said again.
I said the writter of genesis could not see the story arch... from the time of genesis 3 to when the book was written (traditional time line) was 2000 years and was penned by moses... Then from moses to Christ it was almost another 2000 years...
Feel like a retard yet? then you still do not understand.
I am saying moses who wrote genesis 2000 years after the fact could not have known what Jesus would do 2000 years into his future. so then to write a story arch that span 2000 years took more than what man could do alone. It was BS to leave a story opened like the bible was then and now for that kinda of time. So not a story, but more of a history who follows a 4000 year arch.