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Why do cardinals get to elect the Pope?
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RE: Why do cardinals get to elect the Pope?
Popes certainly wished for this to be so, that they were the undisputed "top dog"....but they kept getting rolled by kings throughout history.  Yes, the anointing was politically useful to them, pageantry provides legitimacy....but what a king would then do with that legitimacy was another thing entirely.  Yes, during that time many kings believed themselves to be appointed by god, but they didn't stop believing so when their interests and actions ran counter to those of rome.  Popes often found themselves begging the fuckers for money (or depending on a specific ruler as a patron to get into the funny hat club in the first place.)

Attempts to reform this incestuous relationship, as unfruitful as they ended up being, were still attempts at reformation. When Boru employed the term secular he wasn't referring to modern western pluralism or anything like that, only that in the relationship between the leader of a faith and the leader of a country, the latter is the secular authority.
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Why do cardinals get to elect the Pope? - by Fake Messiah - March 13, 2019 at 12:51 pm
RE: Why do cardinals get to elect the Pope? - by Brian37 - March 13, 2019 at 1:05 pm
RE: Why do cardinals get to elect the Pope? - by Brian37 - March 13, 2019 at 1:32 pm
RE: Why do cardinals get to elect the Pope? - by The Grand Nudger - March 13, 2019 at 1:43 pm
RE: Why do cardinals get to elect the Pope? - by Brian37 - March 13, 2019 at 2:00 pm
RE: Why do cardinals get to elect the Pope? - by Brian37 - March 13, 2019 at 3:15 pm
RE: Why do cardinals get to elect the Pope? - by brewer - March 13, 2019 at 1:59 pm
RE: Why do cardinals get to elect the Pope? - by Brian37 - March 13, 2019 at 2:45 pm
RE: Why do cardinals get to elect the Pope? - by Yonadav - March 13, 2019 at 3:09 pm
RE: Why do cardinals get to elect the Pope? - by chimp3 - March 13, 2019 at 5:37 pm
RE: Why do cardinals get to elect the Pope? - by Yonadav - March 13, 2019 at 8:14 pm
RE: Why do cardinals get to elect the Pope? - by chimp3 - March 13, 2019 at 10:49 pm
RE: Why do cardinals get to elect the Pope? - by no one - March 13, 2019 at 11:10 pm
RE: Why do cardinals get to elect the Pope? - by chimp3 - March 13, 2019 at 11:17 pm

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