RE: Another Gun Thread
May 23, 2019 at 8:36 am
(This post was last modified: May 23, 2019 at 8:47 am by The Grand Nudger.)
No one assumes that, Brian.
In any case, yeah, your dad probably should have had his guns confiscated. Somehow I doubt that the guy who sold him the gun had a crystal ball, though. The laws that would have allowed that weren't likely to be in place at the time, or those laws that would have were not specific enough...or it's just a thing that happens and even if there are laws against it, so long as no one got hurt, no one was going to do much about it.
Which one of those problems is a Big Gun problem?
(We've already been over the access problem thing, I don't have much to add and I doubt we can have a productive convo until we can agree to work from a common basis of actual facts, lol)
Otoh, and this is an amusing fact of gun ownership and numbers in the US, higher numbers of guns in an area doesn;t actually correlate to higher gun violence (the swaths of america full of super users aren;t also riddled with gun crime - guns per capita, we're the most responsible fucking owners on the planet, with fewer dead people for people with guns than anwhere else, capable of supporting active conflict zone levels of armament in a peaceful..and increasingly peaceful, first world country)...and the above explains why this is the case, despite how intuitive the notion of "more guns more death" is.
In any case, yeah, your dad probably should have had his guns confiscated. Somehow I doubt that the guy who sold him the gun had a crystal ball, though. The laws that would have allowed that weren't likely to be in place at the time, or those laws that would have were not specific enough...or it's just a thing that happens and even if there are laws against it, so long as no one got hurt, no one was going to do much about it.
Which one of those problems is a Big Gun problem?
(We've already been over the access problem thing, I don't have much to add and I doubt we can have a productive convo until we can agree to work from a common basis of actual facts, lol)
(May 23, 2019 at 8:30 am)onlinebiker Wrote: What magic have you got to defeat economics 101?Perhaps...more to the point and assuming it would work to whatever extent it could work...any limitation on guns produced today wouldn't show an effect until those guns hit the time-to-crime stats state by state, which lags years behind production....but even then, there would still be the mass of older guns available, and since gun violence only employs a vanishingly small fraction of guns produced it's not as if there'd be a shortage of hot pistols.
Otoh, and this is an amusing fact of gun ownership and numbers in the US, higher numbers of guns in an area doesn;t actually correlate to higher gun violence (the swaths of america full of super users aren;t also riddled with gun crime - guns per capita, we're the most responsible fucking owners on the planet, with fewer dead people for people with guns than anwhere else, capable of supporting active conflict zone levels of armament in a peaceful..and increasingly peaceful, first world country)...and the above explains why this is the case, despite how intuitive the notion of "more guns more death" is.
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