RE: God's Love
May 28, 2020 at 9:39 am
(This post was last modified: May 28, 2020 at 9:41 am by Johanabrahams.
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(May 28, 2020 at 8:04 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote:(May 28, 2020 at 7:02 am)Johanabrahams Wrote: Why do you think you find it "amusing"?I have a strong appreciation for irony. It's just how I was made, I suppose.
Quote:If God is a Father then obviously those believing in Him to be their Father should have experience of it. Specially in the Love Relationship of a Father and Child. This boils down to a conversation between them that is experienced in the Spirit/Feeling/Emotion of Love.You should tell all the other fatherless boys that all they have to do is really believe that they have a father, and poof.....a wild fairy dad experience will appear. Personally, I'm all set on dads. All set on lovers too. That's probably why this sort of evangelistic pitch doesn't appeal to me. I already have what you're selling, and I'm satisfied with the product.
Quote:Not true. But rather telling yourself that you have a Relationship with God but not actively Experiencing it is what will land a person in the loony bin. It is like trying to tell yourself that 1 + 1 = 5. Our brain can not cope with that and will derail. Or to bring it much nearer to our context. It is like trying to tell yourself that pink elephants that will help you with your life do exists.What's not true, exactly? People who rave about seeing gods aren't generally considered to be of sound mind, least of all by other alleged god believers. Telling people you have a relationship with god is a common christian cliche. Conversational shorthand for identity.
Quote:Yep. Those are the religious guys. Believing in a religion and trying to pass it off as real. And the honest ones trying to find reality, a Real God, in it and not finding it there will surely create the possibility for this. Because religion is just a mind game. Nothing Real there.I'd be hesitant to compare belief in religions to belief in intervening gods. There's nothing particularly wrong with religion, the same might not be the case with regards to the other. If you insist that a gods intervention has done whatever to you, that lead to what we see today - then I'm going to point you in the direction of piles and piles of religious humanists without these cognitive ticks.
Or they will just ran away. You might find many of them in this forum too. Because that is the only option left. To fight against the "lies".
Honestly, I think that the user of a christian cliche's relative lack of faith in their gods (compared to some nut) probably correlates nicely to their level of sanity.
Quote:I have a strong appreciation for irony. It's just how I was made, I suppose.
What about the feeling of "compassion"? For those struggling in their "illness"?
Quote:You should tell all the other fatherless boys that all they have to do is really believe that they have a father, and poof.....a wild fairy dad experience will appear.
That is exactly what I do. And that is exactly what i expect to happen. Only it is not a "fairy dad". But The Real Dad. Because exactly this happened to me.
Quote:Personally, I'm all set on dads. All set on lovers too. That's probably why this sort of evangelistic pitch doesn't appeal to me. I already have what you're selling, and I'm satisfied with the product.
I know. We all have them. Some are lucky and have a loving dad. That is why God use this terminology so that we can be able to understand what He is about.
The only difference is that God puts it in context with who and what He is. The Almighty Dad. That is where it gets "mind blowing". And that is why I appear to be without a "mind" because God "blew it away" in my experiences with Him.
Quote:What's not true, exactly? People who rave about seeing gods aren't generally considered to be of sound mind, least of all by other alleged god believers.
Yep. We don't see God with our physical eyes but with our Spiritual Eyes. But the picture does get more clear every day as we grow up to "see" Him better.
Quote:Telling people you have a relationship with god is a common christian cliche. Conversational shorthand for identity.
All Christians know that this is what it all is about. We have to grow into experiencing more of God's presence in our Lives as a Reality.
Quote:I'd be hesitant to compare belief in religions to belief in intervening gods. There's nothing particularly wrong with religion, the same might not be the case with regards to the other. If you insist that a gods intervention has done whatever to you, that lead to what we see today
Religion is the mind thinking about God and trying to bring it to others in understandable words and ideas and opinions. It is not Relationships. You can for instance tell your friend about your wife but it is not the actual relationship with you and your wife.
Quote:- then I'm going to point you in the direction of piles and piles of religious humanists without these cognitive ticks.
There are many different religions and those adhering to them. As Christians we know we have to find unity which is rather evasive. To find some Christian that differ from me is easy. But let us stick to what we have. Those calling them Christians seems to stay away from my thread. Why do you think it is the case?
Quote:Honestly, I think that the user of a christian cliche's relative lack of faith in their gods (compared to some nut) probably correlates nicely to their level of sanity.
We call it different. We are getting born as a Child of God. And we enter this Life as a Baby of God. Or a Baby God which many will object too. But that is me defining the Reality of having God as Father. So the "Babies" just does not understand much. That is where the divisions comes from.