(May 21, 2021 at 5:30 pm)Ravenshire Wrote:(May 19, 2021 at 3:22 pm)Irreligious Atheist Wrote: It's breaking news and 99 percent of people probably haven't heard the news, and this thread literally talks about UFOs in the title so it couldn't be any more relevant. Are you turning your back on Obama now and don't like him anymore because he confirmed something you thought was a conspiracy theory, and now you see how wrong you were, and you don't like it when you're wrong, and that your constant talk of conspiracy theories is just shooting yourself in the foot, because you probably haven't actually done any research into the subject and the revelations released over the past few years, just like you probably didn't do any real research when it came to the lab leak hypothesis, and you just label everything a conspiracy theory and like you said, you prefer to focus on comforting news stories like Joe Biden giving his wife some flowers rather than what's actually going on in this world.
What I posted was completely on topic, and if the thread ends up being derailed, it will be your doing. You are in the wrong here. Please increase my warning level by 25 percent and let it be. I'm not looking for another argument with you derailing the thread and throwing out insults in every post, like you do to me in many threads, and like you do to Bryan37 by mocking him and calling him a retard in every thread when he has done nothing wrong in that particular thread yet. You just enjoy starting fights and conflict and you refuse to let things go.
When your "argument" makes sense to Drich, you may wish to consider a different argument 'cause you'll make sense to abso-fucking-lutely no one else.
Drich does not agree with my opinion on this topic. The only thing we really agreed upon is that the phenomena that was confirmed by probably the most complimented and maybe respected person besides MLK ever on this forum, President Barack Obama, former senate majority leader Harry Reid, and on and on, seems to be real, extraordinary phenomena. We've seen the videos, and the POTUS just confirmed that there is other data (like radar, etc) that confirms that this phenomena moves and maneuvers in ways that scientists and the government currently do not understand. This is what Drich and I agree on. I do not mind at all being lumped in with Drich when he holds what I see as the correct position.
I have never claimed that aliens or demons are visiting us. I do not know what the phenomena is. It could be something as mundane as unexplained weather phenomena. If it is aliens, I wouldn't worry about them harming us. If they're here, perhaps they've already been here for thousands of years, and if they wanted to do harm to us, they probably would have done it by now. Maybe we're like a zoo to them and they're just watching our progress. A war between aliens and humans is what you see in the movies. Governments wouldn't fear aliens. They'd rather this be aliens than China having this kind of tech, which is way scarier.
I think I come at this subject with a pretty logical mindset. I don't believe people like Bob Lazar. He's either a fraud or a disinformation agent. I don't believe that the supposed "ufo material" they gave to the army to study is necessarily legit. I don't quite know what to make of that just yet, but I've heard about ufo material found before and it didn't pan out. Obama confirmed that there is other data besides these videos that have been released that confirms that this phenomena is extraordinary and real, and I don't think he's pulling off some kind of huge false flag hoax on the people, so call me gullible and I'll be fine with that. Again, I don't believe aliens are visiting us. I don't think that's the most likely explanation, but if aliens or alien drones were visiting us, this might be what it would look like, and that in itself is exciting even if there is only a 1 in 100,000 chance that it's aliens. No matter what this phenomena is, it's exciting. I'm not someone who has always believed in aliens and was just looking for a chance to say, "see, I was right." I mocked the subject like most here, and the past few years has been a real mindfuck taking in all of this news, data, and evidence, and seeing that the world was not quite as boring as I thought it was. Strange things are going on out there. In the face of new data, I am forced to change the way I see the world. We are living in a new world, and truth is stranger than fiction.
