[Serious] Generally speaking, is philosophy a worthwhile subject of study?

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You also didn't define the word define, but that's not really an issue is it?

Every action, as I've repeatedly acknowledged... and as was mentioned by others at the very beginning of the thread... isn't a philosophical action - but constructing a value system and acting on that value system - even if it's perpetually under construction and subject to revision, is doing philosophy.  "I'm going to buy cheese" isn't philosophy, and isn't premised on any philosophy.  "I'm going to buy sustainable, cruelty free, organic, locally sourced cheese" is..and explicitly so.

Would people come around to that if there were no movement, if there were no under-riding philosophy that they've been made aware of and find compelling?  IDK, maybe, but we didn't.  I don't think that you should take the suggestion that you do philosophy as some sort of insult or plot to get you to do or believe any particular thing - and I have no idea what god has to do with anything we've been discussing.  I'm noticing that it is your cup of tea in the same way that it's all of our cups of tea and that you do have a philosophy, that you do actually apply that philosophy as a demonstration of it's practicality to you.   May as well say that breathing isn't our cup of tea.  Maybe not, but we do it all the same, and alot, and to/for noticeable effect.

God is a religious philosophy,......... philosophy, get it? Every thing has philosophy behind it is bullshit. When an action changes or a motive changes then it's due to philosophy is crap. Philosophy comes in the back door and says 'this is the cause/justification' after the fact. Nothing like 20/20 hind site.

In my every day real life, philosophy at a conscious level rarely comes into play. It's more biology, genetics and environment, The philosophers (especially here) often behave like they are the end all be all. I'm telling you that they are not. Most of real life, thought, actions, behaviors continue on with no thought of philosophy. I don't recycle because some philosophy told me to, I don't eat fatty foods because some philosophy told me to, I don't kill people because some philosophy told me to, it genetics/environment/tribe-society. These drive behaviors not philosophy. But wait, here comes philosophy, has an idea/position and backs it up with an argument and claims 'here is the answer'.

Stop the bullshit justification.

Tell me the philosophy adhered to in Lord of the Flies. Did the author know that it would fail? I'm sure all those kids were exposed to it. Or how about the Stanford Experiment where the half given power turned ugly. I'm convinced the majority of them were exposed to philosophy you seem to champion. Why didn't it guide and influence them?

Show of hands forum peeps, how many live day to day and support all aspects of their life guided by philosophy alone?

I'll say it again, philosophy may be worth while for many but blathering online about it is not for me. I've got more constructive things to do.

Last post. (I'm positive TGN will respond {not directly to me} and claim the win)