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A "meta-argument" against all future arguments for God's existence ?
RE: A "meta-argument" against all future arguments for God's existence ?
(March 9, 2022 at 6:29 pm)Angrboda Wrote:
(March 9, 2022 at 5:22 pm)The L Wrote: I always find this does well against all claims that God exists:

(1) If God exists then God gave people free will

(2) For God to give people free will then free will must be possible

(3) But free will isn't possible

(4) So God can't give people free will

(5) So God cannot exist.

The form is something like if X then Y if Y then Z not Z so not Y not Y so not X

The argument against that is that if free will were deterministic, then it wouldn't be free will. If it can be described mechanistically, then the outcome is pre-ordained, and that's not free will. Determinism is a metaphysical assumption that can't be tested. It's a lot like physicalism that way.

Of course, such does not make determinism "not true". It may be true, like a beginningless Cosmos, yet somewhat beyond our comprehension.

In any case, free will, in some instances, does not exist; modern science can observe epileptic seizures.
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RE: A "meta-argument" against all future arguments for God's existence ? - by Jehanne - March 9, 2022 at 9:04 pm

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