RE: Kanye West on Alex Jones
December 18, 2022 at 4:28 pm
(This post was last modified: December 18, 2022 at 4:44 pm by Irreligious Atheist.)
(December 18, 2022 at 3:48 pm)Helios Wrote: So let's sum this silliness up, shall we?
1. No one is saying racism against whites is good and saying otherwise is silly.
2. There is no inconsistency in pointing out that by the logic of systematic power= racism Kanye's racism is still racism as he aligned himself with the white power structure.
3. The fact violence can be carried about by groups is not a refutation of systematic power= racism
4. Tolerance is not a matter of time it requires both struggle and vigilance against regressive forces. Good does not inevitably win and it must fight to survive and complicity will be its death.
5. Racial Supremacy is not the same as mere racism. One produces your politically incorrect uncle dave the other creates the Confederacy and the Nazi Party. White supremacy is intolerable in any civilized society and must be mercilessly dealt with before it gets out of control.
That's pretty much the end of this.
So what about black people who attack Asian Americans, and lets say for arguments sake that these black people are not aligned with white supremacists. Is that racism? The attackers have no systemic power over the Asian Americans. By continuing to try to defend this logic of calling some bigots racists but not others, you are basically defending dog whistles to racism. All groups can be racist. Racist black activists just don't want to be called the same term the white supremacists are called (racist), because they see that as an icky term that is only to be used for whites, and the activists see their racism as wholly justified, which is why they are fighting the act of others calling their hatred racism.
Systemic racism is the bigger issue because we rightfully hold systems and people working in those systems to a higher standard than racist normies on the street, so of course systemic racism should be singled out a lot, I agree, but this doesn't in turn mean that systemic racism is therefore the only racism in existence.
I'm not saying time is the only variable. Of course gay marriage had to be legalized as well by the system, and then support has exploded since then. The older super racist generation dying out will do much of the work in society becoming less racist.
Racism is the belief that one race is superior to another, so I think we can say that racism and racial supremacy are the same, but I understand what you're getting at. We all are or most of us are at least a little bit racist, and of course that's different from being a full blown fanatical supremact.
You asked me why not do to white supremacists what they want to do to others? If a sociopath wanted to skin people alive, would we skin him alive just to prove a point? When has an eye for an eye ever made a decent society?
And about racist people having their kids taken away, I'd just say that professionals will tell you that a child is usually much better off staying in an even somewhat abusive home, rather than being placed into the system. If people are teaching their kids that Jews or any group should have violence done to them or something like that, then it might be the time to get them out of that environment.