RE: Did God play peek-a-boo?
March 16, 2023 at 5:14 pm
(This post was last modified: March 16, 2023 at 5:28 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(March 16, 2023 at 4:59 pm)Ferrocyanide Wrote: You mean this line?Getting their asses handed to them by the guys with iron chariots, one would assume. A reason just like the ones you describe below. The again, the ot "historians" are well known for being brazen fucking liars..so maybe nothing of the sort ever happened and the person(s) in question full on electively decided that iron was their gods kryptonite - but here again, there are rules to magic. Maybe iron -is- kryptonite to some kinds of gods. They do all seem to have one glaring (and narratively useful) weakness, at least.
Judges 1:19 KING JAMES VERSION
And the LORD was with Judah; and he drave out the inhabitants of the mountain; but could not drive out the inhabitants of the valley, because they had chariots of iron.
I suppose they were viewing their world with their religious glasses on.
So, possibly that war was real and the author chose not to write “the lord was not with Judah”. Of course, he could have written it in a dozen different ways but who knows what lead them to that ^^^^ mess.
Quote:The jewish god can’t snap his fingers suddenly and forgive everyone because of a very logical reason: the believer combines the reality that he observes with his imagined god."Some" isn't the word. The overwhelming majority of american christians, for example, self report as having one or more new age beliefs and their witchdoctors have been pulling the fire alarm about it for decades. That's the strange gnarly core to satanic panics and purity purges in our lifetimes. Think about that. Stuff that gets all the way up to a fever pitch in american law enforcement, with sensational claims of ritual abuse and even human sacrifice.... is ultimately driven by too many parishioners in bumfuckistan tennessee doing tarot.
Just like me, he notices that life is hard, people get sick, people get a tooth ache, their brother suddenly dies of a heart attack at age 30, painkillers are not available during an operation, their 1 y old suddenly dies, etc.
They combine that reality ^^^^^ with this notion that there is a god that loves humans, cares for them and decided to save them using his son Jesus.
As someone has said “It is funny how christians bend themselves backwards to defend their faith”.
Yes, I have encountered some christians (and some hindus) that claim that all religions are correct and that they complement each other.
I took a guess that they are “modern” and they don’t want to tell their fellow man that their “other” religion is false and that they are worshiping false gods and they are going to hell.
But I guess some are explorers and they look into spirituality, budhism, the power of healing crystals, astrology, etc.
Quote:Do you mean around 200 to 500 CE period?Perfect bracketing, I'd say, yes.
Quote:The Cargo Cult people? I imagine that they are not technologically, scientifically advanced so they are susceptible to believing in just anything.When you look around at your fellow modern people and notice that they're fundies, how confident are you that the level of technological advancement is a reliable predictor of the level of superstitious belief? FWIW, the cargo cults didn't build effigies of iron chariots, they built battleships and cvs and strategic bombers.
So when someone comes via an airplane and delivers stuff that has been mass produced using high performance machines, to them it all looks magical since they have not seen the entire infrastructure behind all that.
Quote:If you want a picture of what's bouncing around in this demo's head you can watch any christian marketing networks programming for about an hour - or just set notifications for popular publishers. They know what their flock is so compelled by that..even though they're dirt poor, they'll throw wads of money at it. That even though their time is scarce, they'll reorganize their lives around it. If you have a deeply fundy friend or family member (and aren't already swamped with their weird emails) - ask to be added. For all of it's oddness, it has an internal logic and the community is very much together on that. That internal logic does make it practically effective, as social organizing, too. Recently, alot of the oxygen has been sucked up by trumpism, prepper apocalypticism, and religious militantism...but magical miracle cures and secret knowledge never went away, and they'll outlive The Great Man himself even in the minds of sedition sympathizing dominionists.(March 16, 2023 at 10:08 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: For a specific example, look no further than the american se (or broadly red areas in general) where historically protestant white cultures are incorporating things like reincarnation, theological race realism, sympathetic magic, "natural cures" and terrestrial authoritarian radicalism into what they mean...when they say "christian".
I haven’t heard about this case.
I suppose it's hard to see outside of a functional..and dare I say contemporarily supportive...fundy family, but, like victory over those goddamned yankees and then the world, it's always there in the minds eye for every boy of a certain age in the south. How familiar are you with instantiations of (or beliefs in) sympathetic or ritual magic? Of the notion of gods people in-the-flesh? With intelligent design? With divine command moralities? Of the imperfection of national vessels?
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