RE: UBI support Poll
January 8, 2024 at 11:33 am
(This post was last modified: January 8, 2024 at 11:38 am by The Grand Nudger.)
Any ubi we instituted would be tied to a social security number...so..no, like the other benefits that nuts worry about the foreign browns stealing, a flood of immigrants would not actually recieve ubi.
Similarly, a ubi does not need "extra money" or for anyone to raid the pentagons budget or for us to stop investing outside of our borders. Our domstic situation is intrinsically tied to our international activity. If we want to reshore our industry or become isolationists that's it's own thing. We don't need to deal with either issue to institute a ubi.
As for the hypothetical lack of motivation to be at the top of your game, I can't really speak to that. Maybe there are people who aren't all that interested in what they do and the money truly is the only reason they try to excel. I do that shit for free in my hobbies. Even with a ubi, if you wanted to be rich, you'd still have that angle. The main difference being that if you actually did want to be the best damned burger assembler in the country, you wouldn't have to eat cat food to make your life work on mcmoney.
People who needed it would have it. People who didn't would spend, invest, or save it. There really isn't much in the way of downsides unless you happen to be one of the rarified few slurping at the government trough while insisting that society would collapse if anyone else got a taste of that american pie. Think about the effects of paying out our damned tax returns on child poverty. It's not actually a huge lift to abolish poverty in the us, it's just that there's alot of money to be made by impoverishing people.
Similarly, a ubi does not need "extra money" or for anyone to raid the pentagons budget or for us to stop investing outside of our borders. Our domstic situation is intrinsically tied to our international activity. If we want to reshore our industry or become isolationists that's it's own thing. We don't need to deal with either issue to institute a ubi.
As for the hypothetical lack of motivation to be at the top of your game, I can't really speak to that. Maybe there are people who aren't all that interested in what they do and the money truly is the only reason they try to excel. I do that shit for free in my hobbies. Even with a ubi, if you wanted to be rich, you'd still have that angle. The main difference being that if you actually did want to be the best damned burger assembler in the country, you wouldn't have to eat cat food to make your life work on mcmoney.
People who needed it would have it. People who didn't would spend, invest, or save it. There really isn't much in the way of downsides unless you happen to be one of the rarified few slurping at the government trough while insisting that society would collapse if anyone else got a taste of that american pie. Think about the effects of paying out our damned tax returns on child poverty. It's not actually a huge lift to abolish poverty in the us, it's just that there's alot of money to be made by impoverishing people.
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