RE: A Christian group showed up at the Chigaco Gay Pride...
February 3, 2012 at 12:17 pm
(This post was last modified: February 3, 2012 at 12:18 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(February 3, 2012 at 7:52 am)CliveStaples Wrote: ...wait, what? They're not celebrating "love, fun, and acceptance." They're celebrating a particular kind of lifestyle. And last time I checked, saying "No, I don't think that kind of lifestyle is actually good" isn't celebrating "hate, intolerance, and bigotry" any more than saying "Yes, I think this kind of lifestyle is actually good."
I can celebrate love, fun, and acceptance and still express my view that a particular kind of lifestyle isn't good.
Yes, you can say that, and we can ask for reasons...and you wont have any that don't amount to hate, intolerance, and bigotry. Unless you're here to show us a brand new revelation.
Quote:See how that works? I can say, "Actually, I think you've put the wrong moral value on this kind of thing" without saying "...and the government should punish you" or "and I don't trust you around children" or anything like that. Sometimes, an argument about sexual values is really just an argument about sexual values, not just a pretext to argue against people you hate.
Sometimes that's true, unfortunately we're not talking about "sometimes" but something that is actively happening. This disagreement has led states to consider bans on gay marriage, which is punishment...if you're looking to get married and happen to be gay. So, you can say that, but that's not what's being done. Nor are you actually saying any such thing. You're just deferring punishment to the hands of a cosmic tyrant rather than your own, because blood is distasteful on one's own hands.
Quote:Might as well get rid of the "free exercise" clause as well, as long as you're shredding the foundations of our liberty.
Ironic, this has always been a suggestion of religious authority.
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