(March 8, 2012 at 12:45 am)MysticKnight Wrote: But if we ignore that, and look at the fact it has personal will, we can see it has high intelligence, and we an associate moral thought with high consciousness and it seems we been given a lot of good, opportunity to be honorable, etc, which shows good will on part of the First Cause Being(s). We can also see it's immensly powerful and is a magical being.
I highlighted all that I felt was important. You drew all these conclusions from the creation of the universe?
Sorry, but none of your conclusions logically follow-
Your God could be stupid, creating this universe by random but still meeting all other attributes that allow him to be free from all the limits the universe has (I don't grant you that, btw, I was only showing you with your own logic).
If own being "given" alot of good = a moral God, then the fact that bad exists too proves that there is no moral God? A moral God cannot be a moral God and not not a moral God, as this violates the law of noncontradiction. Good =/= a good God.
Surely immensely powerful, but magical? I suppose, but there would have to be some evidence that magical things even exist.
Just putting that out there.
My conclusion is that there is no reason to believe any of the dogmas of traditional theology and, further, that there is no reason to wish that they were true.
Man, in so far as he is not subject to natural forces, is free to work out his own destiny. The responsibility is his, and so is the opportunity.
-Bertrand Russell
Man, in so far as he is not subject to natural forces, is free to work out his own destiny. The responsibility is his, and so is the opportunity.
-Bertrand Russell