The idea of God always existing

[Mystic]

There seems to be a lot of jumps there. First of all I would agree that as far as matter INSIDE of our universe etc that the cause and effect principle holds true. However how do we know that outside of our universe there are not particles/units of energy that work under a different system?

Every effect has a cause, can be said to be properly basic. At any rate, even if we don't know have intuitive knowledge of this, when it comes to explaining our universe, we should hold this principle all times. It doesn't make sense that the orginal constitutes of the universe didn't follow this principle and all of sudden the principle applies to it and it became a property of it. That's illogical.

You mention knowledge through self revelation. Not to be insulting but how do you differentiate between your self revelation being legitimate versus it being something you wish to be true?

Well I do wish it to be true. But the same can be asked about morality. How do we know morality is not a delusion, and should be followed. How do we know it has authority over us? If it's properly basic knowledge, at the end, you don't need to justify it.

You mention a lot of qualities about this said deity which don't seem to have any basis in evidence. The moral argument for a deity's existence is possible but morality also has strong roots in practicality.

Well I think morality speaks of an authority to the infinite degree, the nature of moral authority is such that it's height of authority is ultimately high, what can that authority be but God.

This is not the only argument for morality. I have basically three arguments from morality, that make it seem to me it's obvious God exists.

What about those of us who, again no offense, don't have this special gift of divine revelation? Are we simply to trust yours?

Well I don't know for sure, but I would imagine we all have the ability to see God so to speak. It's just some are not looking, and although his light shines upon them, and they can realize the Sun from the sunlight, they don't.

This can because they are looking for rational proof instead of spiritual truth.

But God is obviously Spiritual and knowledge of him will not be in the realms of cold hard dry logic, but rather metaphysical intuition.

I do not believe anyone can offer any evidence of the supernatural outside of their own mind/beliefs. This may work for self conviction but to the rest of us how do we know it is not all in your mind/a projection of your desires onto reality?

I don't think you would know by trusting me or another person or mystics, it's rather should be self-realization.