RE: Good short and simple argument against God
July 31, 2012 at 8:57 am
(This post was last modified: July 31, 2012 at 8:58 am by pocaracas.)
(July 23, 2012 at 7:44 am)GodlessGirl Wrote: Imagine a world where God did not exist but people just really wanted to believe for whatever various reasons. Now try to find the difference between the world you just imagined and our world.
's advocate: Such world would never exist!! All worlds require god as the creator!!!
- What if a god is not required to create a Universe?
What if you go to hell after you die?
- empty threat is.... empty!
What other way do you have to explain the existence of this universe?
- Big bang.
But what about before the big bang? Who created the Big bang?
- I don't know. Why does there have to be someone creating the big bang? Maybe the energy that "transformed" into matter, at that time, was just there all along, since eternity. Maybe something else.... bottom line: I don't know.
Well I know that god did it.
- how do you know that?
I believe it, hence I know.
- you silly person. believing and knowing are two different things! I believe my wife is not having an affair.... but I don't know it.
I have faith in god. I feel he's there. I know he's there.
- Are you sure that what you feel is god? I'm willing to bet that, 3000 years ago, in Egypt, people felt similar things and attributed it to their gods. I could say the same for hindus, vikings, classical greeks and romans, celts, etc, etc... Why is your deity any better than theirs?
It's the one true god. There is no other. Those other people were mistaken in their interpretation of the divine message.
- How can you be sure that you're not mistaken as well?
Jesus Christ spoke to a lot of people and made miracles and we now have an unbroken line of accounts of these feats.
- So you believe that these accounts haven't suffered any alterations throughout the years? Also why didn't everyone in the world become convinced of it just as you are? Perhaps J.C. didn't really perform such miracles... he may have just been a very knowledgeable guy and then a bunch of superstitious mumbo-jumbo was latched on to his persona.
The book was compile in the 3rd century. It has been unaltered since then. Even then, it's parts had been written for some time. People just wouldn't admit into incorporating untrue facts in those texts.
- Why? People couldn't read! They just heard what the preachers said. And, you know, for the most part, they didn't witness the miracles and general life of J.C.. And preachers like to incorporate changes in their stories, to build more of an audience and get more financial help (just like nowadays street performers!) The more entertaining the story, the better!
devil (reached the limit of icons): You're going to hell!
- I'll find out when I get there. Until then, I'm enjoying a carefree life!