RE: Why does God hate babies who have not sinned?
October 13, 2012 at 2:26 pm
(This post was last modified: October 13, 2012 at 2:28 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(October 13, 2012 at 8:32 am)Reasonable_Jeff Wrote: The Bible would say differently...that sin is in fact hereditary.Why should I give two shits what the bible says? Establish it's credibility or stop sourcing it.
Romans 5:12 (NLT) — 12 When Adam sinned, sin entered the world. Adam’s sin brought death, so death spread to everyone, for everyone sinned.
(October 12, 2012 at 7:48 pm)Rhythm Wrote: It would be more accurate if your son too was scum of the earth. Then you as a just judge (God is a just judge) should punish them all, but you choose to have mercy on some and take the punishment yourself so that the son (whom in this scenario would be the one that you would take the punishment for) can be shown mercy instead of justice. And yet you are still just because punishment was executed.I'll modify my question yet another time, and if you don't want to answer it that's, fine, but be upfront about it.
All parties involved are the scum of the earth. Can I now beat my daughters to within an inch of their life to make my gift of not beating my son to within an inch of his life (and giving him a new trike) more wonderful? Is this a display of my glory and mercy and just'ness? I hardly think so. It sounds like a display of petty cruelty. Just say no, because I;m confident that you don't feel that this would be a wise course of action to take. Just say no so I can add "Do as I say and not as I do" to "Shut your face and know your place"...and "justice and mercy -for some- destruction for the rest". Save us both the trouble.
(October 12, 2012 at 7:48 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Sin is when you do things, like things, love things, in a way that shows that you value those things more than God.Right..like not believing in god..therefore valuing all things over a non-existent thing.
Quote:We are all born that way, but God in his great mercy redeems those that would place their faith in Jesus.I agree, we do all seem to be born that way.......and what kind of mercy are we talking about again? Mercy like the mercy above? Thanks, but I'll pass.
Quote:Titus 3:3–7 (NLT) — 3 Once we, too, were foolish and disobedient. We were misled and became slaves to many lusts and pleasures. Our lives were full of evil and envy, and we hated each other. 4 But—“When God our Savior revealed his kindness and love, 5 he saved us, not because of the righteous things we had done, but because of his mercy. He washed away our sins, giving us a new birth and new life through the Holy Spirit. 6 He generously poured out the Spirit upon us through Jesus Christ our Savior. 7 Because of his grace he declared us righteous and gave us confidence that we will inherit eternal life.”Revealed his kindness and love.....yeah, not by the example you've proposed Jeff. More of this mercy eh, again, I'll pass. You are describing a god not worthy of my friendship, let alone worship, and that's regardless of whether or not it exists. What is difficult to understand about this?
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