hypocritical Christians complaining about islamic infiltration of the school system

[Brian37]

Evolution would not occure without diversity, IN ALL biological life, plants, incects even bacteria.

Societal tribalism is no different an alpha male than any other species. But to say cooperation and overlap never exist is absurd. Both are part of evolution.

I don't think you understood me properly. I'm talking about politics, you're talking about something else. I'm saying that countries ultimately aim to bring their citizens under a single identity, while you come here talking about biology and evolution.

I did not miss your point. read what I said, EVOLUTION is the cause of why countries try to aim their citizens into a single identity. Evolution produces GROUPS because of the safty in numbers it has the potential to provide.

I am saying while that is a dominate force, it also produces cooperation. If it always saught facism, the west would not be secular in it's protection of dissent.

Political and religious labels are nothing but artifical memes we slap on evolution to either excuse dominance or in seeking cooperation. Both are part of evoltion otherwise we wouldn't have different groups. Thats what evolution has always done.

Evolution would not occure without diversity. Sea life never would have left the ocean, and humans never would have left the caves. Our boarders and politics from the nomadic pre written history to our current labels are a result of change, not stagnation. That is because evolution always changes so why would boarders be different?

You are stuck on lables and our current labels were not arround 500,000 years ago and will not be arround 500,000 years from now. But what has not changed is that we have always stemmed from the same evolution.

So it is not either or. Yes, nationalism exists, religiousity exists, political clubs exist and all of them seek dominance, BUT THAT IS ONE ASPECT of evolution, but it is not the only aspect.

These same "national clubs" can and do seek help from other like minded nations, and they do seek to protect dissent, even if other nations dont.

You are speaking a different langauge. "Diversity" you are treating like a social issue. I am saying diversity in evolution is both good and bad. Cancer would not exist if there were no diversity in evolution. Political and religious labels are merely a social label we slap on evolution, but it is still diverse. One nation protects freedom and dissent and seeks cooperation with other like minded nations, and other fascist states squash dissent while seeking cooperation from other fascist states.

Evolution produces both good and bad and poltics is merely the comic book label we use to justify BOTH the good and the bad humans do. That is what I mean by diversty.

Saying "Tornados" exist and so does snow" does not mean I want a tornado to affect me, but neither would I want an avalanche to affect me even if I like snow. But both are still natural.

I think the wests secular attitudes is more in lines of the positive side of evolution. Fascism is the relfection of the selfish aspect of evolution. Both can work and both can fail, I am saying that both exist like it or not. That is what I mean by diversity.