God’s law versus secular law. Which is moral?

[The Grand Nudger]

godwillsit™, justifying my sinful actions, not serious, hardened hearts This is the script the apologist reads from when they have no answer.

It doesn't matter to me whether or not god did it Drich, I'm asking you how it's supposed to work. Your constant assertions of what a god has done (in addition to being unable to establish that god did anything at all...) are incapable of answering this question.

Let me explain, in case you were wondering...why this is important to me. I'm being asked to weigh two options, essentially. One the one hand I have a secular morality which:

-Invokes an authority which can be demonstrably show to exist.
-Passes judgment on our actions by reference to evidence and reason (even if I disagree with either..they are present)
-Is accountable to us for it's various conclusions (which are all open to dissent and further exploration/revision)
-Proceeds by explicable, demonstrable, accountable mechanisms to the actions informed by all of the above

or, on the other hand...the morality of a god which:

-Invokes an authority that cannot be demonstrated to exist
-Passes judgement on our actions by reference to nothing more than it's will and it's power (or not, depending on which side of this waffle you want to be on at any given moment)
-Is not accountable to anyone or anything for it's various conclusions, further these conclusions are beyond reproach
-Proceeds by inexplicable, undemonstrable, unaccountable mechanisms to the actions informed by all of the above.
(All of this, of course, only according to you. Others may offer a better explanation for any or all of the above...but they may not)

The bolded bit is the part I've been asking you about. Gee...such a tough decision /sarcasm. I don't think, for even one minute...that you would accept such a system imposed upon you in this life. You have lowered your standards and are pleading with me to do the same in reference to a god. IOW...I don't think that your appraisal of gods morality is consistent with your own demands of ours..of what you would accept from us..why the lord fucking almighty gets off this hook - is, to me- a mystery.

Let's imagine two scenarios.

You appear before a court as the defendant:
You are charged with "you know what you're charged with"
The evidence against you "This court requires no evidence"
The argument made by the prosecution is that "no argument need be made"
The verdict is "Whatever this court wills, and it wills you to be guilty"

Conversely,you're the plaintiff:
The defendant is found guilty and ordered to make reparations to you.
The court suggests he do so by means of "The court ordered him to make reparations, and the court insists that it has the authority to make such an order".

Now, does the first scenario sound, to you, like something you would sign on with? Does the second scenario...to you, seem like a coherent statement from the court?