RE: The idea of God always existing
December 2, 2012 at 12:39 am
(This post was last modified: December 2, 2012 at 12:42 am by Darkstar.)
(December 1, 2012 at 4:14 am)Undeceived Wrote:By 'space' I mean matter.(November 30, 2012 at 10:44 pm)Darkstar Wrote: Why? Time, maybe, but why space? Space could very well be eternal.Possibly, depending on what you call 'space'.
(December 1, 2012 at 4:14 am)Undeceived Wrote: No one was proposing space arranging into a being "prior to the beginning of the universe." They were, however, explaining that the first cause in the chain must have no beginning--it must be pure actuality. This could be a divine being [no evidence], or an undiscovered force (no evidence). Or there could be a way for our current natural laws to be violated, eliminating the need for a cause->effect (with all evidence to the contrary). Again I ask, which is the most plausible to you? Or do you have another proposition to add to the list?
Bolded added by me.
Why a divine being? In the words of Carl Sagan "why not save a step?" Which is more plausible to you? (I pick the first, by the way):
1. The universe came into being without a cause
2. An omnipotent, omniscent, infinite being came into existence without a cause, and then proceeded to create a universe from nothing.
Here, I'll even post Sagan's video: