(December 5, 2012 at 7:54 pm)John V Wrote:(December 5, 2012 at 7:51 pm)Brakeman Wrote: Thats a pretty good idea, you ought to write that in the bible..It's already there:
Romans 8
29 For whom He foreknew, He also predestined to be conformed to the image of His Son...
In context that reads:
23 And not only the creation, but we ourselves, who have the firstfruits of the Spirit, groan inwardly as we wait eagerly for adoption as sons, the redemption of our bodies. 24 For in this hope we were saved. Now hope that is seen is not hope. For who hopes for what he sees? 25 But if we hope for what we do not see, we wait for it with patience.
26 Likewise the Spirit helps us in our weakness. For we do not know what to pray for as we ought, but the Spirit himself intercedes for us with groanings too deep for words. 27 And he who searches hearts knows what is the mind of the Spirit, because[g] the Spirit intercedes for the saints according to the will of God. 28 And we know that for those who love God all things work together for good,[h] for those who are called according to his purpose. 29 For those whom he foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, in order that he might be the firstborn among many brothers. 30 And those whom he predestined he also called, and those whom he called he also justified, and those whom he justified he also glorified.
Someone that does not know god/christ is not one who has the "firstfruits of the Spirit"
This is not talking about those that do not worship god. It does not support your argument.
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