(December 5, 2012 at 8:40 pm)Darkstar Wrote: So I'm pure evil, then?Yep.
Quote:Or will he let me acept Jesus when/if he ever gives reliable evidence of his existence?You've made it clear that you wouldn't accept Jesus even if you believed in his existence.
Quote:And you conspicuously fail to say what he was going for. Like any literary interpretation, you won't know what the author intended the meaning to be unless the go on record and say it officially. Whether we take this as god or an ancient person, we still won't get an answer.He was going for equality, not inferiority. Haven't you read it?
Quote:I recall certain theists saying that god won't reveal himself because we would worship out of self-preservation and not genuinely.I was referring to Satan, not god, and again, other nameless theists can say whatever they want.
Quote:Revelation 13:15-16First, you shifted to a different part of Revelation. Second, yes, sometimes the faithful are called to die. God didn't spare his own son, you know.
The second beast was given power to give breath to the image of the first beast, so that the image could speak and cause all who refused to worship the image to be killed. 16 It also forced all people, great and small, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hands or on their foreheads
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The faithful die. Or do we consider this genuine worship?
Quote:...what? Are you saying that god wanted to be fair to Satan, so he let him take over the world to make up for not letting him do what he wanted earlier?I didn't say anything about "not letting him do what he wanted earlier." I'm suggesting this as a possibility. I've already noted that we don't have enough information to know for sure.
You should also consider Satan's temptation of Christ. It's interesting that he offers Jesus the world. If it weren't Satan's to give, the obvious answer would be "that's not yours to give," but Jesus does not dispute Satan's right to offer it.