RE: Can the forum's christians see the demons in other people?
December 5, 2012 at 9:20 pm
(This post was last modified: December 5, 2012 at 9:20 pm by Darkstar.)
(December 5, 2012 at 9:06 pm)John V Wrote:I'm not even going to bother displaying the numerous passages that suggest women are inferior. I did find this, however:Darkstar Wrote:And you conspicuously fail to say what he was going for. Like any literary interpretation, you won't know what the author intended the meaning to be unless the go on record and say it officially. Whether we take this as god or an ancient person, we still won't get an answer.He was going for equality, not inferiority. Haven't you read it?
Genesis 2:20-24
But for Adam no suitable helper was found. 21 So the Lord God caused the man to fall into a deep sleep; and while he was sleeping, he took one of the man’s ribs[g] and then closed up the place with flesh. 22 Then the Lord God made a woman from the rib he had taken out of the man, and he brought her to the man.
23 The man said,
“This is now bone of my bones
and flesh of my flesh;
she shall be called ‘woman,’
for she was taken out of man.”
24 That is why a man leaves his father and mother and is united to his wife, and they become one flesh.
John V Wrote:Theists on this forum (Drich and Godschild, maybe?). But, okay.Darkstar Wrote:I recall certain theists saying that god won't reveal himself because we would worship out of self-preservation and not genuinely.I was referring to Satan, not god, and again, other nameless theists can say whatever they want.
John V Wrote:First, you shifted to a different part of Revelation. Second, yes, sometimes the faithful are called to die. God didn't spare his own son, you know.His son was raised in three days. And, I did not move away from what was previously quoted. I quoted that passage in full (and another verse or two) originally.
John V Wrote:I didn't say anything about "not letting him do what he wanted earlier." I'm suggesting this as a possibility. I've already noted that we don't have enough information to know for sure.
You should also consider Satan's temptation of Christ. It's interesting that he offers Jesus the world. If it weren't Satan's to give, the obvious answer would be "that's not yours to give," but Jesus does not dispute Satan's right to offer it.
I actually never thought about that, but you bring up a good point. As for not having enough information, I guess the difference here is that I do not think there is much more information to be had because the bible is fiction, whereas you say it is fact and that not everything was recorded (despite it being divinely revealed).