RE: Another gun thread...
December 27, 2012 at 1:49 am
(This post was last modified: December 27, 2012 at 2:03 am by The Grand Nudger.)
(December 25, 2012 at 7:24 pm)whateverist Wrote: So strange that people who recognize nonsense when they hear it in regard to gods and religion fall under the spell of this sort of hogwash. It ain't happening. There won't be a suspension of our democratic process by any tyrant nor will we storm the capital with muskets. We will suffer a continued erosion of responsible government by moneyed interests but at no point will they overreach so egregiously that wholesale carnage makes sense. Those looking forward to running around like in the movie Braveheart who can't be bothered to put any effort into making the government we already have accountable through democratic processes don't deserve any better government and will never have it with such wishy washy commitment.
Especially if we're willing to put up with it to avoid carnage - which we clearly are at this point. Should I really have to invoke the potential threat of tyranny (however unlikely) just so I can shoot at a squirrel with a .22? I'll be honest with you, that already sounds like tyranny. The seed, at least, is planted. Public opinion is anti-gun, (or pro-gun, depending on where you live) and the mob screams for blood, I get it.
Not that I'd run around freezing my balls off and starving as a rebel if some outlandish shit went down, mind you, I'd most likely end up as the cruel boot of the system, or a cog in the gears of the machine - I have mouths to feed. What that has to do with my .22 and those squirrels though, is beyond me.
(December 25, 2012 at 8:07 am)Napoléon Wrote: Oh for christ sake, this logic keeps coming up but it's still not an argument against better gun regulation. Obviously tougher gun laws are going to affect the average person more, but to say it won't affect criminals either is flat out wrong.
"Oh criminals don't pay attention to laws". No shit.
It keeps coming up because I seriously doubt that anyone's checked those books, firstly, and secondly because it's demonstrable accurate. To some, being stabbed or clubbed to death rather than shot (even as a potentiality) may seem like a victory, but to me it isn't. We do have hard data that shows us that the regulations do not have the desired effect - but the one effect they most definitely do have is the one that perplexes me the most.
IMO, "better gun regulation" would begin and likely end with thorough enforcement of current gun regulations - which is a hair shy of a fucking pre-crime unit.........and only remains so because we are -allowed- to have guns at all.
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