The argument from morality is scary.

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I haven't seen that argument before or at least not along those lines but I have come across similar sentiment. It sort of leads into a thread I was thinking of starting as soon the other threads i have an input into to die down a bit or I have nothing further to add to them. I was going to come at a similar idea but from the question of if religion/Deity did not exist what exactly would be considered evil and by what criteria would it be judged ( before the word good could be used it would also need to be defined) as you can see I haven't fully thought out the wording but I think that is close to where i was going.

It kind of surprises me that anyone involved in any sort of religious discussion hasn't come across this argument multiple time. I think a huge problem is a lack of understanding of history. The ideas of good and evil have shifted incredibly in the course of human history. This argument is only valid if you think morality hasn't changed. It has. What is evil today was not considered evil 2000 years ago. For example the prophet Muhammad having sex with a 9 year old was common place and not considered immoral in that day and time. If something that we consider as base and immoral as pedophilia can change with time, how can we possibly say we don't have cultural morality?

I find this argument to actually be the reverse of it's intent. The intent is to say we all are born with a scale of right and wrong that comes from god. What it sounds like to me is that we are all born with a desire to do horrible evil things, and your belief is god is the only thing that prevents you from doing that. I reject both of those ideas. They scare me, and don't speak well of those who present them.