(October 15, 2009 at 7:37 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: But all you are doing is ending up with one less expression of wonder than me.That's your opinion. In my opinion, theism - and even deism - demeans nature by thinking it needs extra - and then lacks any support to how its arguments are valid. To me it's just a load of made up nonsense that trivialized the beauty of true reality and gets in the way.
Considering my different worldview - and even just the simple fact that we are two different people - our opinions are bound to differ.
But 'meaning' is a subjective matter, that's my point.
Quote:Your atheism lets you ignore the theological. My Theology permits fully my naturalistic view to fully match yours.
Well theology doesn't do any such thing in my view you see, because - at least insofar as I can tell - it doesn't have any substance to it, and so is a load of made up nonsense that gets in the way and trivializes nature and true reality as it really is, as I said.
Quote:Everything is subjective
To those who are subjects, to physical agents, to sentient beings, etc - Yes. Your point being? Doesn't that simply add to my point that what is 'meaningful' here is a subjective matter and not something that can be logically argued? Just as one can't logically provide evidence of why one piece of music or one piece of art is all over 'better'.
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