(January 3, 2013 at 12:23 pm)Mark 13:13 Wrote:Faith No More Wrote:I'm still not sure how this is relevant to anything in this thread...
sry my fault see post #48
Tobie Wrote:Except there is no god conclusion. It's a starting point, it always has been. There has been no accepted line of thought that has started with axioms of maths or a scientific model that concludes with god - all theories that apparently prove the existence of god presuppose one exists, which is logically invalid. It's like assuming 1+1=8 and concluding the same.
I wasn't replying to you, I was replying to Lion IRC. As for having to presuppose 0 existing, the Greeks managed to do a lot of maths despite not having any understanding of zero.
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