(January 3, 2013 at 12:58 pm)Mark 13:13 Wrote:(January 3, 2013 at 12:38 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Just the opposite, that is what god believers do.
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Good logic works like this.
1. Collect data through established standards
2. Plug data into established formulas through established methods.
3. Compare data to control groups to insure quality of data.
4. Hand data over to independent peer review to have your work verified or rejected. If verified, build upon it. If rejected, start over and discard bad data and or method.
Deity belief does not have that rigid standard.
Make shit up<=retrofit to suit your personal desires
Funny how none of the fans of any invisible pet deity have managed to beat everyone to the patent office or win a Nobel Prize in science with their "invisible sky daddy theory".
"god/s/deities/sky daddies" are a gibberish childish fantasy. It was when the Ancient Egyptians falsely thought the sun was a god, and you are not doing anything differently than they did in falling for your mental placebo.
It made sense that people made up gods when they didn't know better. But when people do that today it's like someone believing in Santa when they are 70 years old. You look silly to us. Just like it was silly for the Egyptians to believe the sun was a thinking deity. They had an excuse because they didn't know better, you have no excuse.
you got to "Deity belief does not have that rigid standard." and then your medication ran out but I will respond to your points till then. Yes the scientific method works very well when applied to the tangible universe but not applicable in the field of philosophy which deals with intangible things (religion is a philosophy).
"For the foolishness of God is wiser than man's wisdom, and the weakness of God is stronger than man's strength." Cor 1:25
Philosophy is dead, it is mere mental masterbation. There is no need for philosophy when you have REAL tools to measure the world around us.
"intangible" is just you trying to usurp the fact that god belief is merely a childish reflection of wishful thinking. The Egyptians wished the sun was a god, but it was not. "intangible" is merely your excuse to cling to your personal predilections rather than examine them.
"The New Atheism" by Victor Stenger and "The God Delusion" by Richard Dawkins go into scientific detail why humans make up bs and falsely believe that bs to be credible.
You don't use a Kaleidoscope to look into deep space, you use a REAL telescope.