(March 17, 2013 at 5:33 am)Dawud Wrote: He can talk to you about 21st century America not being the only social set up.
Who is "He" and where does "He" talk about that?
Quote:He can show you that although it doesn't work in this culture, the evidence shows that in that extremely different culture (where people died much younger) which has different maturity levels - both physically and mentally - this relationship was not in anyway unfair to anyone involved and the evidence shows a mature relationship that flourished in its own context.
Who is "He" and where does "He" talk about that?
What evidence?
What is a "different maturity level"?
What evidence?
Quote:Not even the most virelant enemy of Islam had tried to portray the relationship as a bad thing until someone in a society so different from them applies their own (changing) societal limits as the only one.
A person can only be mature when biologicaly mature or when the phase of reaching biological maturety has been reached - called puperty.
Someone in puperty - is not mature - fact - based on scientific obervation and resulting scientific theory.
Quote:I expect you won't accept that a society can be so different - but that is what the evidence shows: a loving relationship of mutual respect that fit perfectly well.
Which evidence?
A working functional releationship between a minor and adult is not an excuse for setting the legal limitations of maturity at a lower level, this would only give abusers the possibility of staying within a legal relaim.
Being different, does not mean one deserves tolerance.
We dont accept women being seen as property, arranged marrieges and discrimination of non muslims, just like we wouldnt accept hindu widow burning.
Quote:Then again lots of people in the UK and the USA do have 'imposing their way of life on to other people' as part of their secular religion. This society is not present day West. You're going to have to try to prove against this evidence that such a relationship just isn't possible.
What is a "secular religion"?
Where and how is "secular religion" imposed? And by whom?
What the fuck is "present day West" or what is it not?
What evidence?
Quote:I'm sure you'll try to add details that just aren't there too!
Says the guy who ignores statistics! And builds strawmen!