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There is no objective Morality
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RE: There is no objective Morality
(March 23, 2013 at 1:59 am)Violet Lilly Blossom Wrote:
(March 23, 2013 at 1:42 am)Ryantology Wrote: Any suggestion of objectivity would, by necessity, be subjective, wouldn't it?

No.

After all, an objective statement of a thing's objective place in the world is, by definition, not subjective.

But we'd probably think that is was the ravings of a madman, and it probably wouldn't make any sense to us Smile And then we'd go and say that the objective truth is total nonsense, because clearly we know best Wink

No, I mean, specifically, the suggestion of objectivity. There are easy examples of objectively* true statements such as "Breathable air is necessary for humans to survive", but that can be demonstrated (or are theoretically demonstrable).

I wouldn't argue that demonstration, right now, today, is necessary to label something as true outside of subjectivity, but on a subject such as morality, how can any single combination of behaviors constitute an objectively 'moral' code? Doesn't someone have to make that call (even if that someone is God), and does that not destroy objectivity?

*or, as near as makes little difference
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There is no objective Morality - by Mendacium Remedium - March 19, 2013 at 4:17 pm
RE: There is no objective Morality - by Baalzebutt - March 19, 2013 at 4:29 pm
RE: There is no objective Morality - by Ryantology - March 19, 2013 at 4:39 pm
RE: There is no objective Morality - by Violet - March 23, 2013 at 1:25 am
RE: There is no objective Morality - by Ryantology - March 23, 2013 at 1:42 am
RE: There is no objective Morality - by Violet - March 23, 2013 at 1:59 am
RE: There is no objective Morality - by Ryantology - March 23, 2013 at 3:32 am
RE: There is no objective Morality - by Sagasa - March 23, 2013 at 8:37 pm
RE: There is no objective Morality - by The Grand Nudger - March 19, 2013 at 4:48 pm
RE: There is no objective Morality - by Darkstar - March 19, 2013 at 5:10 pm
RE: There is no objective Morality - by Sagasa - March 22, 2013 at 1:45 am
RE: There is no objective Morality - by Angrboda - March 22, 2013 at 1:52 pm
RE: There is no objective Morality - by Sagasa - March 22, 2013 at 4:59 pm
RE: There is no objective Morality - by Simon Moon - March 23, 2013 at 7:02 pm
RE: There is no objective Morality - by Violet - March 23, 2013 at 4:35 am
RE: There is no objective Morality - by Tonus - March 23, 2013 at 8:58 am
RE: There is no objective Morality - by Violet - March 25, 2013 at 4:59 pm
RE: There is no objective Morality - by Tonus - March 25, 2013 at 8:08 pm
RE: There is no objective Morality - by jstrodel - March 23, 2013 at 8:32 pm
RE: There is no objective Morality - by genkaus - March 30, 2013 at 10:16 am
RE: There is no objective Morality - by Ryantology - March 23, 2013 at 10:02 pm
RE: There is no objective Morality - by Jackalope - March 23, 2013 at 10:03 pm
RE: There is no objective Morality - by jstrodel - March 24, 2013 at 12:06 am
RE: There is no objective Morality - by Jackalope - March 24, 2013 at 12:22 am
RE: There is no objective Morality - by jstrodel - March 24, 2013 at 2:00 am
RE: There is no objective Morality - by Silver - March 24, 2013 at 2:01 am
RE: There is no objective Morality - by Jackalope - March 24, 2013 at 2:12 am
RE: There is no objective Morality - by Tartarus Sauce - March 24, 2013 at 2:32 am
RE: There is no objective Morality - by jstrodel - March 24, 2013 at 2:07 am
RE: There is no objective Morality - by Silver - March 24, 2013 at 2:24 am
RE: There is no objective Morality - by jstrodel - March 24, 2013 at 2:21 am
RE: There is no objective Morality - by Jackalope - March 24, 2013 at 2:23 am
RE: There is no objective Morality - by jstrodel - March 24, 2013 at 2:26 am
RE: There is no objective Morality - by Darkstar - March 24, 2013 at 2:25 pm
RE: There is no objective Morality - by jstrodel - March 24, 2013 at 3:41 pm
RE: There is no objective Morality - by Jackalope - March 24, 2013 at 3:45 pm
RE: There is no objective Morality - by jstrodel - March 24, 2013 at 3:52 pm
RE: There is no objective Morality - by Jackalope - March 24, 2013 at 3:55 pm
RE: There is no objective Morality - by jstrodel - March 24, 2013 at 3:56 pm
RE: There is no objective Morality - by Jackalope - March 24, 2013 at 3:58 pm
RE: There is no objective Morality - by jstrodel - March 24, 2013 at 4:00 pm
RE: There is no objective Morality - by Jackalope - March 24, 2013 at 4:03 pm
RE: There is no objective Morality - by Angrboda - March 24, 2013 at 4:56 pm
RE: There is no objective Morality - by jstrodel - March 24, 2013 at 10:56 pm
RE: There is no objective Morality - by Darkstar - March 24, 2013 at 10:59 pm
RE: There is no objective Morality - by jstrodel - March 24, 2013 at 11:03 pm
RE: There is no objective Morality - by Violet - March 25, 2013 at 6:03 pm
RE: There is no objective Morality - by Ryantology - March 25, 2013 at 12:03 am
RE: There is no objective Morality - by Neo-Scholastic - March 25, 2013 at 6:14 pm
RE: There is no objective Morality - by Ryantology - March 25, 2013 at 6:34 pm
RE: There is no objective Morality - by jstrodel - March 25, 2013 at 12:07 am
RE: There is no objective Morality - by Ryantology - March 25, 2013 at 12:34 am
RE: There is no objective Morality - by Sagasa - March 25, 2013 at 5:45 am
RE: There is no objective Morality - by Darkstar - March 25, 2013 at 11:12 am
RE: There is no objective Morality - by Ryantology - March 25, 2013 at 6:14 pm
RE: There is no objective Morality - by jstrodel - March 25, 2013 at 9:27 pm
RE: There is no objective Morality - by Ryantology - March 26, 2013 at 12:09 am
RE: There is no objective Morality - by jstrodel - March 26, 2013 at 11:03 pm
RE: There is no objective Morality - by Darkstar - March 26, 2013 at 11:20 pm
RE: There is no objective Morality - by jstrodel - March 26, 2013 at 11:45 pm
RE: There is no objective Morality - by Darkstar - March 26, 2013 at 11:55 pm
RE: There is no objective Morality - by A_Nony_Mouse - March 27, 2013 at 1:10 am
RE: There is no objective Morality - by Tonus - March 27, 2013 at 6:11 am
RE: There is no objective Morality - by Silver - March 27, 2013 at 6:16 am
RE: There is no objective Morality - by jstrodel - March 28, 2013 at 12:08 am
RE: There is no objective Morality - by CleanShavenJesus - March 30, 2013 at 12:09 pm
RE: There is no objective Morality - by Ryantology - March 30, 2013 at 3:29 pm
RE: There is no objective Morality - by jstrodel - March 30, 2013 at 12:20 pm
RE: There is no objective Morality - by The Grand Nudger - March 30, 2013 at 1:05 pm

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