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There is no objective Morality
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RE: There is no objective Morality
Given enough technological advancements, it's wholly possible that we will not need breathable air. The suggestion of objectivity would depend upon where it comes from... and how one would answer 'is an objective view also a subjective view?'. When pressed, I'd hesitantly answer 'no' on the basis that even were it observed by an individual, the objective view would remain wholly apart from a subjective interpretation of that objective view... and that even were both the reality and the interpretation identical: why would it mean anything more than any other interpretation of the universe? Points on hitting the nail on the head... don'cha feel special? Wink

The term you're looking for is intersubjective, or 'that which seems true for both my world and yours'. It might be that you're making everything intersubjective up, and that you are the objective observation of the universe as there is only you... but if you're party to the belief that other people exist independently from you, and it is also true that you are a part of everything (and not the whole): intersubjectivity then has meaning.

Such intersubjective things as science, for instance Smile
Please give me a home where cloud buffalo roam
Where the dear and the strangers can play
Where sometimes is heard a discouraging word
But the skies are not stormy all day
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There is no objective Morality - by Mendacium Remedium - March 19, 2013 at 4:17 pm
RE: There is no objective Morality - by Baalzebutt - March 19, 2013 at 4:29 pm
RE: There is no objective Morality - by Ryantology - March 19, 2013 at 4:39 pm
RE: There is no objective Morality - by Violet - March 23, 2013 at 1:25 am
RE: There is no objective Morality - by Ryantology - March 23, 2013 at 1:42 am
RE: There is no objective Morality - by Violet - March 23, 2013 at 1:59 am
RE: There is no objective Morality - by Ryantology - March 23, 2013 at 3:32 am
RE: There is no objective Morality - by Sagasa - March 23, 2013 at 8:37 pm
RE: There is no objective Morality - by The Grand Nudger - March 19, 2013 at 4:48 pm
RE: There is no objective Morality - by Darkstar - March 19, 2013 at 5:10 pm
RE: There is no objective Morality - by Sagasa - March 22, 2013 at 1:45 am
RE: There is no objective Morality - by Angrboda - March 22, 2013 at 1:52 pm
RE: There is no objective Morality - by Sagasa - March 22, 2013 at 4:59 pm
RE: There is no objective Morality - by Simon Moon - March 23, 2013 at 7:02 pm
RE: There is no objective Morality - by Violet - March 23, 2013 at 4:35 am
RE: There is no objective Morality - by Tonus - March 23, 2013 at 8:58 am
RE: There is no objective Morality - by Violet - March 25, 2013 at 4:59 pm
RE: There is no objective Morality - by Tonus - March 25, 2013 at 8:08 pm
RE: There is no objective Morality - by jstrodel - March 23, 2013 at 8:32 pm
RE: There is no objective Morality - by genkaus - March 30, 2013 at 10:16 am
RE: There is no objective Morality - by Ryantology - March 23, 2013 at 10:02 pm
RE: There is no objective Morality - by Jackalope - March 23, 2013 at 10:03 pm
RE: There is no objective Morality - by jstrodel - March 24, 2013 at 12:06 am
RE: There is no objective Morality - by Jackalope - March 24, 2013 at 12:22 am
RE: There is no objective Morality - by jstrodel - March 24, 2013 at 2:00 am
RE: There is no objective Morality - by Silver - March 24, 2013 at 2:01 am
RE: There is no objective Morality - by Jackalope - March 24, 2013 at 2:12 am
RE: There is no objective Morality - by Tartarus Sauce - March 24, 2013 at 2:32 am
RE: There is no objective Morality - by jstrodel - March 24, 2013 at 2:07 am
RE: There is no objective Morality - by Silver - March 24, 2013 at 2:24 am
RE: There is no objective Morality - by jstrodel - March 24, 2013 at 2:21 am
RE: There is no objective Morality - by Jackalope - March 24, 2013 at 2:23 am
RE: There is no objective Morality - by jstrodel - March 24, 2013 at 2:26 am
RE: There is no objective Morality - by Darkstar - March 24, 2013 at 2:25 pm
RE: There is no objective Morality - by jstrodel - March 24, 2013 at 3:41 pm
RE: There is no objective Morality - by Jackalope - March 24, 2013 at 3:45 pm
RE: There is no objective Morality - by jstrodel - March 24, 2013 at 3:52 pm
RE: There is no objective Morality - by Jackalope - March 24, 2013 at 3:55 pm
RE: There is no objective Morality - by jstrodel - March 24, 2013 at 3:56 pm
RE: There is no objective Morality - by Jackalope - March 24, 2013 at 3:58 pm
RE: There is no objective Morality - by jstrodel - March 24, 2013 at 4:00 pm
RE: There is no objective Morality - by Jackalope - March 24, 2013 at 4:03 pm
RE: There is no objective Morality - by Angrboda - March 24, 2013 at 4:56 pm
RE: There is no objective Morality - by jstrodel - March 24, 2013 at 10:56 pm
RE: There is no objective Morality - by Darkstar - March 24, 2013 at 10:59 pm
RE: There is no objective Morality - by jstrodel - March 24, 2013 at 11:03 pm
RE: There is no objective Morality - by Violet - March 25, 2013 at 6:03 pm
RE: There is no objective Morality - by Ryantology - March 25, 2013 at 12:03 am
RE: There is no objective Morality - by Neo-Scholastic - March 25, 2013 at 6:14 pm
RE: There is no objective Morality - by Ryantology - March 25, 2013 at 6:34 pm
RE: There is no objective Morality - by jstrodel - March 25, 2013 at 12:07 am
RE: There is no objective Morality - by Ryantology - March 25, 2013 at 12:34 am
RE: There is no objective Morality - by Sagasa - March 25, 2013 at 5:45 am
RE: There is no objective Morality - by Darkstar - March 25, 2013 at 11:12 am
RE: There is no objective Morality - by Ryantology - March 25, 2013 at 6:14 pm
RE: There is no objective Morality - by jstrodel - March 25, 2013 at 9:27 pm
RE: There is no objective Morality - by Ryantology - March 26, 2013 at 12:09 am
RE: There is no objective Morality - by jstrodel - March 26, 2013 at 11:03 pm
RE: There is no objective Morality - by Darkstar - March 26, 2013 at 11:20 pm
RE: There is no objective Morality - by jstrodel - March 26, 2013 at 11:45 pm
RE: There is no objective Morality - by Darkstar - March 26, 2013 at 11:55 pm
RE: There is no objective Morality - by A_Nony_Mouse - March 27, 2013 at 1:10 am
RE: There is no objective Morality - by Tonus - March 27, 2013 at 6:11 am
RE: There is no objective Morality - by Silver - March 27, 2013 at 6:16 am
RE: There is no objective Morality - by jstrodel - March 28, 2013 at 12:08 am
RE: There is no objective Morality - by CleanShavenJesus - March 30, 2013 at 12:09 pm
RE: There is no objective Morality - by Ryantology - March 30, 2013 at 3:29 pm
RE: There is no objective Morality - by jstrodel - March 30, 2013 at 12:20 pm
RE: There is no objective Morality - by The Grand Nudger - March 30, 2013 at 1:05 pm

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