RE: The origin of morality
April 4, 2013 at 2:52 am
(This post was last modified: April 4, 2013 at 3:17 am by A_Nony_Mouse.)
(April 3, 2013 at 1:43 am)fr0d0 Wrote: Secular mortality pales in comparison to the standard of absolute morality championed by Christianity. It's not the same beast at all, but a taster of the real thing. I would call secular morality savage. There is no justification for forgiveness, for example. Listen to defenders of our legal system and they cite Christ as the standard for this. Society demands retribution and an eye for an eye.
Morality deals with behavior. Punishment, with or without meaningless forgiveness, is in christian morality. If everything is the same but there is some feel-good forgiveness benefiting only the forgiver it has nothing to do with the morality of the behavior itself.
This must be one of reasons philosopher ridiculed christian navel lint eaters.
(April 3, 2013 at 8:49 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote: ...
I wouldn't get on my high religious horse fr0d0 if I were you. Your morality (xtian standard or lack there of) is the sole perpetrator of the most heinous crimes of immorality to date (quickly being overtaken by your sister religion islam) I wouldn't be proud at all if I were you
The "other" is always excluded from moral consideration while it always includes members of the social group. However the consequences are not always strict. See the recent surveys on who it is OK to drone.
(April 3, 2013 at 2:25 pm)Joel Wrote: Forgiveness only affects yourself. Morality doesn't hinge on that; only forgiveness.
I could fool someone into believing I have forgiven them and it doesn't affect them: but it will affect me, because I haven't actually forgiven them.
I don't see what point you're trying to make.
EDIT: How can I forgive any more than everyone who has wronged me?
Just before the switch is thrown shout, I forgive you.
Doesn't make and difference at all.
Speaking of Islam, society does not punish if the wronged party forgives. That is a significant difference whereas there is no difference in punishment in Christianity.
