Are you for or against the separation of church and state?

[Godscreated]

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Jesus said thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God, who are you that you believe you can demand something from the God of creation. You want proof of God then don't be so lazy and find it as scripture says possible. I'm not going to fall into this little selfish trap that has been tried here numerous times.

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That excuse doesn't fly:

Matthew 17:20
He replied, "Because you have so little faith. Truly I tell you, if you have faith as small as a mustard seed, you can say to this mountain, 'Move from here to there,' and it will move. Nothing will be impossible for you."

Exodus 3:18-20
“The elders of Israel will listen to you. Then you and the elders are to go to the king of Egypt and say to him, ‘The Lord, the God of the Hebrews, has met with us. Let us take a three-day journey into the wilderness to offer sacrifices to the Lord our God.’ But I know that the king of Egypt will not let you go unless a mighty hand compels him. So I will stretch out my hand and strike the Egyptians with all the wonders that I will perform among them. After that, he will let you go.

1 King 18:36-39
36At the time of sacrifice, the prophet Elijah stepped forward and prayed: “Lord, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Israel, let it be known today that you are God in Israel and that I am your servant and have done all these things at your command. 37Answer me, Lord, answer me, so these people will know that you, Lord, are God, and that you are turning their hearts back again.”

38Then the fire of the Lord fell and burned up the sacrifice, the wood, the stones and the soil, and also licked up the water in the trench.

39When all the people saw this, they fell prostrate and cried, “The Lord—he is God! The Lord—he is God!”

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Let's face facts, GC, the reason you will not agree to these terms is because you and I actually believe the same thing about this subject: that is simply that there is no active personal god.

If he was active and personal, I'd be the one on the weak side of this argument, and you'd be confident that god would prove your position.

As it stands, we both know the exact same thing. He won't do anything because he doesn't exist.

And look at that, I didn't even turn into worms!

Acts 12:23

Persons who know God know He is going to do things by His will, and we know that asking God to do things outside of His will turn out fruitless. God doesn't work the way you are purposing and if you did not know this you do now. You're trying to use scripture in a way that's against God's will, you should be careful about toying with God.

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God shows up daily, you only need to look.

Prove it.

I'm not going to fall into this little selfish trap that has been tried here numerous times.

All we have to do is ask and we've won because you claim there is evidence but you are incapable of demonstrating it. If you have it, you can show it. If you can't show it, you don't have it.

You're being childish, if you're an adult act like it.

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Jesus said thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God, who are you that you believe you can demand something from the God of creation. You want proof of God then don't be so lazy and find it as scripture says possible. I'm not going to fall into this little selfish trap that has been tried here numerous times.

It wouldn't have to be a demand, or a request for a parlor trick. Why couldn't it be a sincere prayer to god to demonstrate himself to all, and thus give many people hope and a path to salvation? Why would god consider that an attempt to tempt him, or a "trap???" Would it truly be selfish of you to ask god to reveal himself and provide a path to heaven for all who would believe?

Scripture tells us this is against the will of God, knowing this I would not be able to pray for that, and since you do not believe you most certainly can not. God's laid out a plan from before time and he's not changing things up for your petty and selfish ways.