(April 19, 2013 at 11:31 am)Drich Wrote:Not a very full/fool proof method of acquiring knowledge, is it?(April 18, 2013 at 5:12 pm)pocaracas Wrote: How on Earth would you have come across such wondrous knowledge?A/S/K
In case you missed it, here's something to wrap your head around (I wrote this piece of text a few days ago to GC):
(April 17, 2013 at 6:01 pm)pocaracas Wrote: Let me see if I get this straight, GC...
You get the info from other people that there is a divine entity which is invisible, untouchable and, basically, has no measurable physical interaction with our world, but it's out there, somewhere. Those other people also tell you that this entity does interact with our world through people's emotions, feelings and whatnot...
You take this information about this entity, accept it as trustworthy and proceed to confirm this information with a book the same people present to you.
Your mind then accepts the existence of the entity as real and proceeds to interpret some of your "emotions, feelings and whatnot" as an interaction of this entity within you.
You then proceed to let us know about this entity, in the hopes, I guess, that we find that information trustworthy, and go through the same process you went through...
Did I miss something?
I must have, because I fail to see where the entity showed to you that it is real...
It doesn't seem to present itself to human beings through a means other than previous suggestion induced by other human beings... and knowing that the human mind can fool itself using this mechanism, we assume you are under this very mental mechanism of self-delusion.
(April 19, 2013 at 11:31 am)Drich Wrote:That fool proof book?Quote:Has any of those billions who have already died come back to attest that?.. and it was written down in the bible.
Sorry, I don't think its tales represent the real world.
(April 19, 2013 at 11:31 am)Drich Wrote:First, you haven't provided any new information, only a "new" hypothesis/idea/concept.Quote:Kindly read what I wrote again and again, until the glaring part where me dying being equivalent to going back into the nothingness I was before I was conceived becomes clear to your mind.What was abundantly clear from the beginning is that you do not understand death. My assertion was an attempt to correct your flawed understanding of death. You think death is oblivion and that you are pulled from oblivion to be sent to Hell. Jesus teaches Death is our birth into eternity. Which Means from this birth one must endure Death/Hell to reach the oblivion you said you wanted. My question was asked in light of this new information, do you still seek oblivion?
Second, if I don't intuitively accept this jesus character as a conveyer of information concerning the after-life, how am I going to consider your hypothesis about the man's teachings?
Third, my understanding of death is the only one I can be sure of... your is based on the second-hand account of ramblings of some guy who may have been lunatic... We all know there are some of those even today!
Fourth, you say that people die and are born into eternity and then you say I have to endure death to reach the oblivion I expect?!... birth.. live.. die... birth....die
How many times does one die in your world?