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Atheism - less war?
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RE: Atheism - less war?
(April 22, 2013 at 12:23 pm)Maelstrom Wrote:
(April 22, 2013 at 12:14 pm)Rhythm Wrote: They sure like to say that...lol, don't they. Buddhism, by and large, is very religious.

I suppose I view Buddhism, overall, as more of a philosophy than a religion due to the fact that most sects do not believe in a deity.

More to do with the baggage we carry with regards to what does or does not constitute a religion, we imagine that a deity is required because the two always seem to be hand in hand -in our experience-. It isn't.

(April 22, 2013 at 12:20 pm)Dawud Wrote: I think it is the offshoot of Hindustani thought in a very real and palpable sense.

But I think it is fair to class it as an atheist religion as it doesn't mean that either all atheists subscribe to it or that it is derived from atheism.
Of...course you do, because you're committed to the idea and positively require to be able to call something an "atheist religion" despite having it repeatedly explained to you why the usage of the term in that manner is utter trash.

Quote:What I mean to say is that, contrary to some naive interpretations of the meaning of the word, one can be an atheist and be considered as being an adherent of a religion such as Buddhism or Jainism. Hence why experts who know about religion (in peer reviewed journals etc...) understand the possibility (as accepted by Rhythm) of someone being religious and atheism.
Religious and also an atheis-t. This does not make Buddhism or Jainism "atheist religions". end of.

Quote:The nativity comes when one assumes that atheism is a worldview like Christianity etc that defines a person and restricts them to not adhering to a religion....
or that it is a religion, or that the principles of buddhism or jainism follow from atheism so that the term may be used as a qualifier with primacy......

Quote:I do not think atheism is so restrictive - but I understand that post-Christian atheism can take on the form of Christian thought (E.g. Only Christian thought is rational thought/only atheist thought is rational thought). I don't think that you all subscribe to this way of thinking but I am sure you are familiar with it and the rejection of merging atheism with religion is quite apparently similar to rejecting the idea of mixing Christian thought with 'pagan' thought....
There is no such thing as christian atheism, the reason is nestled within the whole "christ" bit (pro-tip, christ doesn't mean "some dude named jesus, maybe"..christ isn't a last name...it's a title with requirements).

Whether or not something is rational is not an offshoot of it;s being "christian" or "atheist" - pigeon.

In short, speak for yourself and stop pretending that your communicating scholarly or academic thought, because it's embarrassing.
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Atheism - less war? - by Dawud - April 22, 2013 at 8:46 am
RE: Atheism - less war? - by Zen Badger - April 22, 2013 at 9:00 am
RE: Atheism - less war? - by Minimalist - April 22, 2013 at 3:38 pm
RE: Atheism - less war? - by The Grand Nudger - April 22, 2013 at 9:01 am
RE: Atheism - less war? - by Kayenneh - April 22, 2013 at 9:18 am
RE: Atheism - less war? - by The Grand Nudger - April 22, 2013 at 9:24 am
RE: Atheism - less war? - by Anomalocaris - April 22, 2013 at 9:28 am
RE: Atheism - less war? - by Dawud - April 22, 2013 at 9:41 am
RE: Atheism - less war? - by Napoléon - April 22, 2013 at 9:51 am
RE: Atheism - less war? - by Anomalocaris - April 22, 2013 at 9:52 am
RE: Atheism - less war? - by Kayenneh - April 22, 2013 at 9:46 am
RE: Atheism - less war? - by thesummerqueen - April 22, 2013 at 9:48 am
RE: Atheism - less war? - by The Grand Nudger - April 22, 2013 at 9:51 am
RE: Atheism - less war? - by Dawud - April 22, 2013 at 9:51 am
RE: Atheism - less war? - by Napoléon - April 22, 2013 at 9:53 am
RE: Atheism - less war? - by KichigaiNeko - April 22, 2013 at 9:53 am
RE: Atheism - less war? - by Anomalocaris - April 22, 2013 at 9:56 am
RE: Atheism - less war? - by Cinjin - April 22, 2013 at 10:16 am
RE: Atheism - less war? - by thesummerqueen - April 22, 2013 at 9:52 am
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RE: Atheism - less war? - by KichigaiNeko - April 22, 2013 at 10:00 am
RE: Atheism - less war? - by Tonus - April 22, 2013 at 10:03 am
Re: RE: Atheism - less war? - by frz - April 22, 2013 at 11:16 am
RE: Atheism - less war? - by Dawud - April 22, 2013 at 11:53 am
RE: Atheism - less war? - by The Grand Nudger - April 22, 2013 at 11:56 am
RE: Atheism - less war? - by Dawud - April 22, 2013 at 11:58 am
RE: Atheism - less war? - by thesummerqueen - April 22, 2013 at 11:58 am
RE: Atheism - less war? - by Dawud - April 22, 2013 at 11:58 am
RE: Atheism - less war? - by thesummerqueen - April 22, 2013 at 12:06 pm
RE: Atheism - less war? - by The Grand Nudger - April 22, 2013 at 12:02 pm
RE: Atheism - less war? - by Dawud - April 22, 2013 at 12:05 pm
RE: Atheism - less war? - by Fidel_Castronaut - April 22, 2013 at 1:26 pm
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RE: Atheism - less war? - by Tonus - April 22, 2013 at 12:07 pm
RE: Atheism - less war? - by Silver - April 22, 2013 at 12:07 pm
RE: Atheism - less war? - by Dawud - April 22, 2013 at 12:07 pm
RE: Atheism - less war? - by The Grand Nudger - April 22, 2013 at 12:08 pm
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RE: Atheism - less war? - by The Grand Nudger - April 22, 2013 at 12:14 pm
RE: Atheism - less war? - by Silver - April 22, 2013 at 12:23 pm
RE: Atheism - less war? - by Dawud - April 22, 2013 at 2:20 pm
RE: Atheism - less war? - by Fidel_Castronaut - April 22, 2013 at 2:23 pm
RE: Atheism - less war? - by Dawud - April 22, 2013 at 12:20 pm
RE: Atheism - less war? - by LastPoet - April 22, 2013 at 12:25 pm
RE: Atheism - less war? - by Jerome - April 22, 2013 at 12:26 pm
RE: Atheism - less war? - by downbeatplumb - April 22, 2013 at 12:31 pm
RE: Atheism - less war? - by Anomalocaris - April 22, 2013 at 2:58 pm
RE: Atheism - less war? - by The Grand Nudger - April 22, 2013 at 12:33 pm
RE: Atheism - less war? - by thesummerqueen - April 22, 2013 at 1:30 pm
RE: Atheism - less war? - by A_Nony_Mouse - April 22, 2013 at 1:36 pm
RE: Atheism - less war? - by The Grand Nudger - April 22, 2013 at 1:37 pm
RE: Atheism - less war? - by A_Nony_Mouse - April 23, 2013 at 10:29 am
RE: Atheism - less war? - by Dawud - April 22, 2013 at 2:24 pm
RE: Atheism - less war? - by Darkstar - April 22, 2013 at 3:36 pm
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Re: Atheism - less war? - by frz - April 22, 2013 at 3:00 pm
RE: Atheism - less war? - by Fidel_Castronaut - April 22, 2013 at 3:18 pm
RE: Atheism - less war? - by Anomalocaris - April 22, 2013 at 3:06 pm
RE: Atheism - less war? - by The Grand Nudger - April 22, 2013 at 3:40 pm
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RE: Atheism - less war? - by Dawud - April 22, 2013 at 5:05 pm
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RE: Atheism - less war? - by Dawud - April 22, 2013 at 5:17 pm
RE: Atheism - less war? - by The Grand Nudger - April 22, 2013 at 5:20 pm
RE: Atheism - less war? - by Dawud - April 22, 2013 at 5:20 pm
RE: Atheism - less war? - by Tonus - April 22, 2013 at 6:27 pm
RE: Atheism - less war? - by The Grand Nudger - April 22, 2013 at 5:22 pm
RE: Atheism - less war? - by Dawud - April 22, 2013 at 5:25 pm
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RE: Atheism - less war? - by Dawud - April 22, 2013 at 5:29 pm
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RE: Atheism - less war? - by The Grand Nudger - April 22, 2013 at 5:31 pm
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RE: Atheism - less war? - by Dawud - April 22, 2013 at 6:16 pm
RE: Atheism - less war? - by TromboneAtheist - April 22, 2013 at 6:25 pm
RE: Atheism - less war? - by Dawud - April 22, 2013 at 6:28 pm
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RE: Atheism - less war? - by Jackalope - April 22, 2013 at 6:45 pm
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RE: Atheism - less war? - by Dawud - April 22, 2013 at 6:49 pm
RE: Atheism - less war? - by Jackalope - April 22, 2013 at 6:56 pm
RE: Atheism - less war? - by Minimalist - April 22, 2013 at 6:49 pm
RE: Atheism - less war? - by The Grand Nudger - April 22, 2013 at 6:52 pm
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RE: Atheism - less war? - by Minimalist - April 22, 2013 at 7:00 pm
RE: Atheism - less war? - by Tonus - April 22, 2013 at 7:05 pm
RE: Atheism - less war? - by Dawud - April 22, 2013 at 6:57 pm
RE: Atheism - less war? - by Jackalope - April 22, 2013 at 7:09 pm
RE: Atheism - less war? - by Dawud - April 22, 2013 at 7:02 pm
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RE: Atheism - less war? - by The Grand Nudger - April 23, 2013 at 11:07 am
RE: Atheism - less war? - by A_Nony_Mouse - April 23, 2013 at 11:57 am
RE: Atheism - less war? - by Dawud - April 23, 2013 at 11:25 am
RE: Atheism - less war? - by thesummerqueen - April 23, 2013 at 11:26 am
RE: Atheism - less war? - by A_Nony_Mouse - April 23, 2013 at 12:19 pm
RE: Atheism - less war? - by Dawud - April 23, 2013 at 11:27 am
RE: Atheism - less war? - by Minimalist - April 23, 2013 at 12:32 pm
RE: Atheism - less war? - by The Grand Nudger - April 23, 2013 at 11:30 am
RE: Atheism - less war? - by Dawud - April 23, 2013 at 11:30 am
RE: Atheism - less war? - by thesummerqueen - April 23, 2013 at 11:32 am
RE: Atheism - less war? - by Dawud - April 23, 2013 at 1:20 pm
RE: Atheism - less war? - by Soyouz - April 23, 2013 at 1:30 pm
RE: Atheism - less war? - by Dawud - April 23, 2013 at 11:34 am
RE: Atheism - less war? - by Darkstar - April 23, 2013 at 11:36 am
RE: Atheism - less war? - by thesummerqueen - April 23, 2013 at 11:36 am
RE: Atheism - less war? - by Dawud - April 23, 2013 at 11:37 am
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RE: Atheism - less war? - by Dawud - April 23, 2013 at 11:43 am
RE: Atheism - less war? - by Mister Agenda - April 23, 2013 at 11:57 am
RE: Atheism - less war? - by The Grand Nudger - April 23, 2013 at 11:45 am
RE: Atheism - less war? - by Dawud - April 23, 2013 at 11:46 am
RE: Atheism - less war? - by thesummerqueen - April 23, 2013 at 11:46 am
RE: Atheism - less war? - by Dawud - April 23, 2013 at 11:46 am
RE: Atheism - less war? - by The Grand Nudger - April 23, 2013 at 11:47 am
RE: Atheism - less war? - by Dawud - April 23, 2013 at 11:47 am
RE: Atheism - less war? - by The Grand Nudger - April 23, 2013 at 11:48 am
RE: Atheism - less war? - by Dawud - April 23, 2013 at 11:48 am
RE: Atheism - less war? - by The Grand Nudger - April 23, 2013 at 11:50 am
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RE: Atheism - less war? - by Dawud - April 23, 2013 at 11:55 am
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RE: Atheism - less war? - by The Grand Nudger - April 23, 2013 at 12:02 pm
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RE: Atheism - less war? - by Dawud - April 23, 2013 at 12:55 pm
RE: Atheism - less war? - by Soyouz - April 23, 2013 at 1:00 pm
RE: Atheism - less war? - by Minimalist - April 23, 2013 at 1:06 pm
RE: Atheism - less war? - by Dawud - April 23, 2013 at 1:14 pm
RE: Atheism - less war? - by Mister Agenda - April 24, 2013 at 2:43 pm
RE: Atheism - less war? - by Dawud - April 23, 2013 at 1:08 pm
RE: Atheism - less war? - by A_Nony_Mouse - April 23, 2013 at 5:51 pm
RE: Atheism - less war? - by Tonus - April 23, 2013 at 1:10 pm
RE: Atheism - less war? - by Dawud - April 23, 2013 at 1:12 pm
RE: Atheism - less war? - by Minimalist - April 23, 2013 at 1:14 pm
RE: Atheism - less war? - by Minimalist - April 23, 2013 at 1:19 pm
RE: Atheism - less war? - by Silver - April 23, 2013 at 1:33 pm
RE: Atheism - less war? - by paulpablo - April 23, 2013 at 1:39 pm
RE: Atheism - less war? - by The Grand Nudger - April 23, 2013 at 2:09 pm
RE: Atheism - less war? - by Dawud - April 23, 2013 at 5:56 pm
RE: Atheism - less war? - by A_Nony_Mouse - April 23, 2013 at 5:58 pm
RE: Atheism - less war? - by The Grand Nudger - April 23, 2013 at 6:27 pm
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