Dad links son's suicide to 'The God Delusion'

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I regard life, the universe etc as real evidence of a Creator.

Why so?
Imagine you'd never been told about any gods. You wonder where you came from. To begin, you see what you're made from (cells and such) and you wonder where they came from. You see how they can be created and altered over time, and this shows you how your cells and organs evolved over time. You trace your ancestry back to the very first, most primitive organisms and see what they're made of. You learn which molecules are involved and how they ended up arranged in such a way. You then wonder where these molecules came from. You find out that most of them were thrown out from the sun and such things. You wonder where the sun came from, and research shows you exactly how these stars are formed. You wonder where the star "stuff" originally came from, and after doppler experiments and such, you see that all of this matter and energy has expanded from a single point. Next you wonder what happened at this point, how it came to be, etc.

Do you continue experimenting and finding the natural solution? Or do you think "perhaps there was a supernatural being which was all-powerful, all-knowing, all-present, a sort of father (despite being around *before* sex) who loves us all and has a magical cloudland for us to go to when we die, but also a fiery mean land to go if we don't obey his rules which he hasn't made a particular effort to outline clearly. He watches everything we do and demands that we send him telopathic messages with our hands clasped together, and that for one day of the week we enter a big fancy building and sing songs about him and listen to a man tell us stories about his marvel."

I can't think of any logical person who could have such a thought process unless previously indoctrinated with these ideas. Damn that silly bible =/

I hope I didn't seem offensive, I was just offering a different perspective.

Anyway back on topic...

You have not offended me. If only it were that simple, but I cannot imagine how I would have viewed things if I'd not been exposed to the belief in a creator god. I was enjoying you taking things back to the initial singularity and then was disappointed you stopped there. Where do you think that 'single point' came from? I was discussing this in another thread. I made the point that if you believe that matter or energy (or whatever the 'stuff' is that made everything) has always been 'out there' then why have a problem with an eternal God always being 'out there'. If you believe that stuff spontaneously appeared out of thin air, then to me that is as unlikely to me as your view of a supernatural being. When I look at a cell, and how all the parts have developed, how things are 'programmed' to do certain tasks, I am blinded by 'design'. I am learning about evolution at the minute, so maybe I will see things differently, but for now, I see design. I'd just like to say that you view of God doesn't sound too good. I don't have that view of God.