(August 18, 2013 at 7:21 pm)themonkeyman Wrote: Hi Folks,Lets divide it up into sections.
Took me a few days to do this. Please feel free to add your own conclusions. I myself will probably re-write it at some point but here's the problems / issues and down right weird things that happened in Genesis.
Its 11 pages long but I hope it helps a young de-converter follow my path of De-Conversion. Its how to look at the bible while completely forgetting about the newer books until you get to them. This means that I am writing as it is not as people generations from then said how it is.
Enjoy,
The next book is Exodus.
Genesis
Quote:GenesisThey 'seem incompatible' because you are not allowing for traditional Hebrew writing/accounting style. We in modern times in the west document everything chronologically. In ancient Hebrew culture the way one accounted an event was to first give an overview highlighting all of the major points and then come back and fill in the details.
Genesis 1 Questions:
Why are the two running orders of creation incompatible?
-or- is it your belief that the guy who wrote genesis 1 forgot what he wrote in genesis 1 when he started on genesis 2?
You've got to remember this book was written in a very different time in a very different language. when reading it in English know you are reading a literal translation. Meaning very little explaination or interpretation has been incorporated into the pages of the book. It is has been left up to the reader to seek out a deeper understanding. That is why 'the church' durning the dark ages took the bible out of a known and readable language and placed it in the hands of those who knew the history and culture in which it came. Even though the intentions may have been good it back fired on them triggering the 'dark ages of the Church.'
Quote:Why does genesis feel the need to pick that the people were naked.Nakedness here represents an innocents or purity. To not know one is naked means to not be aware of a self serving sexual desire.
Quote:Genesis 3 Questions:God's primary motivation was not to preserve a perpetual eden, but to provide the opportunity for man to choose or have the opportunity to choose a will outside of God's own expressed will.
Why did God let the serpent trick eve when God knows everything?
God wanted us to have the ablity too choose.
Quote: God said to both that they must not eat or touch fruit from the tree or they will surely die –They lived "Chay" I believe is the Hebrew word, which translates to a life sustained by water or mortal life. where as before they lived eternally As the tree of life was apart of the Garden as well. (Which is my argument as to why Evolution is possiable. Because we do not know how long Adam and Eve lived in the Garden before being expelled. We only know how long They lived after the Falll of Man.
But they did not die they lived over 900 years?
Quote: Why was it only when Adam ate the fruit that their eyes were opened why not when eve ate it.Birds and bees stuff here. What happens to a man when he sees a naked woman? Before this physical change in Adam Eve saw no reason to look at Adam differently.
Quote: Yet again why they now are worried they are naked?Ever had a dream about giving a speech with no cloths on? Or going to school with no cloths?
Why was that a big deal?
Quote:God talks to himself in the garden?The Dialog is a way to communicates the thoughts of God to the Reader.
Quote:And if God cannot be in the presence of sin why was he in the Garden with Adam and Eve?Sin is not kryptonite, God chooses to separate Himself from sin.
Quote: Why did God ask Adam where he was – Does he not know everything?To denote a Change in Adam's state. The Adam God knew just died.
Quote: Why did God ask Adam who told him he was naked and who gave him the fruit from the tree?Why does a parent ask their child "who ate all of the cookies" when their is cookie all over the face of their small child?
Quote: God said Adam and Eve came from dust and to dust they will return – No hell?No.
Quote: Who is God talking too – ‘Man has become like one of us’ – God sounds very insecure?!God the Spirit and God the Son.
Quote:Where is the Garden of Eden today if there is a Cherubim there?Somewhere Under the Sands of the deserts of the middle east. and Yes.