Skeptics view of Genesis

[Drich]

 Even more Abraham lied because people did fear ‘God’ so if God was all powerful why did he appear to only affect the life of Abraham and Lott everything else does not seem to justify their God.

It seems to me that two great Kings lives were also affected by God.

 God closed up people’s womb God is a tyrant.

Would you say that if He closed up Hitler's Mother's womb?

How are you in a position to understand what closing up a womb may do over the course of time?

Genesis 21

 Lovely Sarah who is involved with Deception and Abraham sent Hagar who was gracious enough to give Abraham a son is sent away.

Indeed.

 God lived with Ishmael – while he grew up?

No. God blessed Ishmael. His decendants are supposedly the nation of Islam.

 Abimelech is Afraid of Abraham and Abraham bullies him about the Well of water?

No. Ab, wanted Abrahams blessings, and Abra, said he would treat Abl as he had been treated by abl. Abra, said you took one of my wells, and as a measure of good will to show abl was not complicit with what had happened to Abra.

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They swore an oath because someone dug a well? How pointless!

to the boy/man who poops in cleaner water than these men had to drink.
water was life to these men, more precious than gold or silver.

 Abraham is now calling upon the ‘Eternal Lord’ must be a different Guy!

why?

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Why did God say Abrahams only son?

Because Abra was not married to Hagar.

Abraham had two sons?

No, he only had one son and a bastard.

Did he not know this?

Indeed He did that is why only one son is actually identified.

 What! God wanted to test Abraham for what purpose? God KNEW THE OUTCOME!

God's tests, are never for God t know the outcome. God's tests are to show us the outcome.

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Abraham did not even question this – Abraham was deluded though reading previously

Abraham was always in it for himself?

 Why did Abraham not question God here when he tried to reason with him regarding Sodom and Gomorrah? Abraham has clearly some mental difficulties!  Abraham even got Isaac to carry the wood!

You yourself even pointed out all the different times abra failed or fell short in faith to God. Abra was fianally to the point where he had complete faith in him.

 Abraham lied to his son!

So? If he didn't he probably would not have gone.

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God mentions Isaac as his Only Son?

indeed because the other one was a bastard.

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Abraham did not kill his son Isaac because ‘An Angel of God’ as opposed to God himself who told Abraham to kill his son? Even so much as when the message is given to Abraham to stop it appears that God is the 3rd Person!

That is what the word angel means. One who carries the message of God.(Messenger) So whether God said to "X" Himself or whether God sends a messenger to tell you to do "X" it is still God telling you to do "X"

 God again blesses everyone on earth. I thought he did this with Noah?

Maybe you do not understand what the word means. Please define the word or phrase as you see understand it.

Genesis 24

 This is interesting we are told that Abraham is old. I thought 100 was old?!

indeed.

 Place a servants hand under Abrahams Thigh?

it's just as strange to someone who is not familiar with shaking hands to swear an oath. or bumping fists..

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God will find a woman for Isaac however the woman may be unwilling to come back? I guess God put a lot of thought into this woman?

God was not mentioned in the oath between Abraham and his lead servant.

 The Servant tested God and asked him to show him by a physical sign not all this ‘In my heart crap!’

No read the passage again the servant asked God for a sign.

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By God controlling the mouth of the Girl that is him interfering with free will again much like the way he kept people from sin!

How do you know God forced her to say anything? Maybe the camels looked thirsty.

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((NAHOR is Rebecca’s father))

 The servant of Abraham said that God blessed him greatly and made him wealthy – Oh yeah because Abraham used deception with the Pharaoh to get wealthy!

So?

 What ever happened to Ishmael why did Isaac get everything – what ever happened to first born birth rights!

Ishmael was a bastard, and as such had no rights in that society.

 Why did God need to send an Angel before the man’s servant! Why did the woman just not materialise or come to him! Clearly God made the woman speak specific words so interfering with free will could not be a problem.

God is the God of the natural world. why do you people always assume god must do magic in order to be God? Why would he put the natural order of the cosmos in motion only to circumvent everytime he wanted something done? Wouldn't a true all knowing God be able to put natural occouring events in order to simply provide Him what he wants?

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The servant acknowledges there is a Distinction from his GOD and the God of Abraham.

where?

 The Servant told god to get the woman to say ‘Drink! And I’ll water your camels too’ When the woman actually said (Drink, my lord) Then said (Ill draw water for your camels too, until they have finished drinking)

... So?

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@Drich, I believe you just proved all of my points.

Then we are in complete agreement as I have proved all of mine as well.

Wow this is a first on this website.