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Dad links son's suicide to 'The God Delusion'
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RE: Dad links son's suicide to 'The God Delusion'
Psalm 23 Wrote:Giving blood is an unselfish deed. I didn't say atheists are not good people. I was saying "if praying makes me feel good, and I believe it can bring peace to the world." then why is that such a bad thing? Why would anyone with a logical thinking brain make up such a crazy statement that "religious people are delusional?" I think that is an extremely ignorant statement, considering the fact that Churches all over the world donate billions of dollars to "feed the hungry and homeless, give presents at christmas charites, soup kitchens on holidays for starving families" How is that delusional?
Because the belief itself IS delusional. And because you don't need to believe in such a delusion to give to charity and be a good person. And because such delusions can be very harmful to the world indeed. Fundamentalists are the main threat. But moderates can also give cover for the fundamentalist believers. Just because they believe in the same nonsensical God. Moderates have been known to prefer more fundamentalist believers in the very same religion as them to militant atheists! Or even more tolerant atheists. And on that point there are even atheists who believe its a load of nonsense and harmful to the world but still think we shouldn't be critical. And people can go around just believing what the hell they want even if its totally delusion and often damaging. Fine if you want to have a delusion that comforts you, fine. But if you don't want to be called delusional and to be challenged then you must "keep thy religion to thyself" as George Carlin would say.


Psalm 23 Wrote:If anything, I think Richard Dawkins should apologize for his ignorant statements. Calling someone delusional, and calling their God a delusion of the mind is not a good way to express your opinions.
That's bullshit. Dawkins is completely correct. God IS a delusion. That's the point of his whole book. He has every right to tell the truth. He shouldn't button his lip just because people are 'offended by it' when they have no right to be. If Dawkins criticized politics, sport, music, etc. He wouldn't get the same reaction. And that's what's wrong. Religion should be allowed to be criticized just as much as politics, sport, music, etc. It shouldn't have so much f**king protection when not only doesn't the thing not allowed to being criticize not exist, unlike politics, sport and music, etc. And is a total delusion. Not only that, but it can be a very harmful belief. It says we are all sinners and the lowest of the low. We are sick and need to get well. And at the same time it says we are the most special creature on the planet and God has plan in mind for us? And that for tens of thousands of years God did nothing and then during the bronze age finally got of his ass and decided to intervene and then there was the bible.
Because of course the human race had been going for thousands and thousands of years.

Psalm 23 Wrote:I promise, you will get more angry religious people than people who deconvert.
But they have no reason or right to be angry. Just as people have no right to be so outraged by constructive criticism. Religion is not sacred. Its delusional and can be completely horrific. It needs criticism otherwise it will get worse. People shouldn't have to put up with such delusional and potentially very harmful bullshit.

Psalm 23 Wrote:Bill O'Reilly told Richard Dawkins where he can stick his book..
But Bill O'Reilly isn't exactly a good role model. The stuff he said to Dawkins is very stupid indeed.
Why don't you stick the bible where the sun don't shine instead? Either that or actual realize its fiction. Its important to history, tradition and the human language. But understand its fictional nonsense and shouldn't be taken seriously or be used to mean that the supernatural exists. That's bullshit. Its certainly not "the word of God". To say God exists is one thing but then to say you know his mind is another. You need a big leap of faith to be a deist but there's a HUGE jump between that and a theist. To say "I know his mind. I know this is the right God."
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Dad links son's suicide to 'The God Delusion' - by leo-rcc - December 2, 2008 at 10:20 am
RE: Dad links son's suicide to 'The God Delusion' - by lukec - December 2, 2008 at 4:05 pm
RE: Dad links son's suicide to 'The God Delusion' - by bozo - December 2, 2008 at 4:08 pm
RE: Dad links son's suicide to 'The God Delusion' - by CoxRox - December 3, 2008 at 11:31 am
RE: Dad links son's suicide to 'The God Delusion' - by Edwardo Piet - December 4, 2008 at 11:20 am
RE: Dad links son's suicide to 'The God Delusion' - by LukeMC - December 4, 2008 at 12:32 pm
RE: Dad links son's suicide to 'The God Delusion' - by CoxRox - December 3, 2008 at 11:43 am
RE: Dad links son's suicide to 'The God Delusion' - by CoxRox - December 3, 2008 at 12:15 pm
RE: Dad links son's suicide to 'The God Delusion' - by lukec - December 3, 2008 at 4:45 pm
RE: Dad links son's suicide to 'The God Delusion' - by lukec - December 4, 2008 at 3:02 pm
RE: Dad links son's suicide to 'The God Delusion' - by lukec - December 4, 2008 at 3:43 pm
RE: Dad links son's suicide to 'The God Delusion' - by lukec - December 4, 2008 at 3:18 pm
RE: Dad links son's suicide to 'The God Delusion' - by lukec - December 4, 2008 at 10:53 pm
RE: Dad links son's suicide to 'The God Delusion' - by lukec - December 4, 2008 at 11:41 pm
RE: Dad links son's suicide to 'The God Delusion' - by LukeMC - December 5, 2008 at 12:16 pm
RE: Dad links son's suicide to 'The God Delusion' - by Baird - December 9, 2008 at 5:08 am
RE: Dad links son's suicide to 'The God Delusion' - by LukeMC - December 6, 2008 at 10:56 am
RE: Dad links son's suicide to 'The God Delusion' - by lukec - December 5, 2008 at 6:50 am
RE: Dad links son's suicide to 'The God Delusion' - by LukeMC - December 5, 2008 at 11:54 am
RE: Dad links son's suicide to 'The God Delusion' - by lukec - December 5, 2008 at 11:44 pm
RE: Dad links son's suicide to 'The God Delusion' - by lukec - December 6, 2008 at 12:18 am
RE: Dad links son's suicide to 'The God Delusion' - by bozo - December 6, 2008 at 2:57 pm
RE: Dad links son's suicide to 'The God Delusion' - by lukec - December 10, 2008 at 3:18 pm
RE: Dad links son's suicide to 'The God Delusion' - by lukec - December 6, 2008 at 5:19 pm
RE: Dad links son's suicide to 'The God Delusion' - by Baird - December 9, 2008 at 9:56 am
RE: Dad links son's suicide to 'The God Delusion' - by Baird - December 9, 2008 at 10:04 am
RE: Dad links son's suicide to 'The God Delusion' - by Baird - December 9, 2008 at 10:11 am
RE: Dad links son's suicide to 'The God Delusion' - by Baird - December 9, 2008 at 10:29 am
RE: Dad links son's suicide to 'The God Delusion' - by Baird - December 9, 2008 at 10:45 am
RE: Dad links son's suicide to 'The God Delusion' - by Baird - December 10, 2008 at 3:14 pm
RE: Dad links son's suicide to 'The God Delusion' - by Daystar - December 10, 2008 at 11:22 pm
RE: Dad links son's suicide to 'The God Delusion' - by bozo - December 11, 2008 at 8:23 pm
RE: Dad links son's suicide to 'The God Delusion' - by Daystar - December 13, 2008 at 11:14 am
RE: Dad links son's suicide to 'The God Delusion' - by Baird - December 11, 2008 at 5:52 am
RE: Dad links son's suicide to 'The God Delusion' - by lukec - December 11, 2008 at 2:40 am

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